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[問題] GWD 17-18

永遠是「句意」為上...文法次之...

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文章odie » 2006-02-04 17:39

我覺得C比A清楚的地方在於
(A)... because coal replaced charcoal as the fuel used in the smelting of iron ore.
as 緊鄰在charcoal之後 變成charcoal 被用來鍊鐵砂
而(C)改為被動的原因即在於
With charcoal's being replaced by coal as the fuel used in the smelting of iron ore....
清楚表達是coal被用來鍊鐵砂

但我還沒有從OG中看過無生命的名詞可以用's的表達方式...
這題真是讓我猶豫不決
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文章fuzzyball » 2006-04-08 15:25

C and D just sounds funny.

... average output tripled overthe eighteenth century...
Can anyone find a legitimate writing that says
"doing y over the x century"?
I don't remember seeing anything written as "over the x century", maybe when you try to express doing something "over a century ago". But when you try to express doing something within the time period of the eighteenth century, i'd use something else.

I can think of other ways such as "Through the x century; Before the x century, after the x century, over the course of the x century (like choice A); or during the x century;". But tripled over the eighteenth century just sounds very funny...

open to discussion... I'd go for A if i must choose one.
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文章steris » 2006-08-31 23:30

關於這題 A 的 as a result of.... and because......
and 是對等連接詞, 這樣到底算不算平衡...
我在做GWD-0-25(CR)時發現了一個句子:

Since creative breakthroughs by scientists under forty also generally occur within a dozen years of the scientist's entry into the field, the study's finding strongly suggests that the real reason why scientists over forty rarely produce highly creative work is not due to age but rather because most have spent too long in their fields.

這裡的 not A but rather B, A和B有平衡嗎?
如果上面題目裡的A和B算平衡
那這題是不是可以選 A 呢?

歡迎大家一起討論~
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文章hcgh » 2006-09-26 22:47

OG10-6. In virtually all types of tissue in every animal species, dioxin induces the production of enzymes that are the
organism's trying to metabolize, or render harmless. the chemical that is irritating it.
(A) trying to metabolize, or render harmless, the chemical that is irritating it
(B) trying that it metabolize, or render harmless, the . chemical irritant
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(C) attempt to try to metabolize, or render harmless, such a chemical irritant
(D) attempt to try and metabolize, or render harmless, the chemical irritating it
(E) attempt to metabolize, or render harmless, the chemical irritant

Answer to Question 6
Although an "-ing" verb such as trying can sometimes be used as a noun, the phrase the organism's trying to
metabolize in A is unidiomatic because trying is used as the object of organism's.

這裡說 所有格+動名詞是unidiomatic
C. With charcoal’s being replaced by coal...
charcoal's being應該也是unidiomatic吧..
如果C改成 With charcoal replaced by...搞不好就對了
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文章A級垂耳兔 » 2006-12-23 00:41

哈...想不到竟然被我找到相似的原文
http://www.safarix.com/0131896431/ch06
看起來似乎答案E比較接近結構....
莫老師說是C...大家看著辦吧...
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文章whoops » 2007-05-31 16:36

fuzzyball \$m[1]:C and D just sounds funny.

... average output tripled overthe eighteenth century...
Can anyone find a legitimate writing that says
"doing y over the x century"?
I don't remember seeing anything written as "over the x century", maybe when you try to express doing something "over a century ago". But when you try to express doing something within the time period of the eighteenth century, i'd use something else.

I can think of other ways such as "Through the x century; Before the x century, after the x century, over the course of the x century (like choice A); or during the x century;". But tripled over the eighteenth century just sounds very funny...

open to discussion... I'd go for A if i must choose one.


I think the usage of..over the eighteenth century has no problem.
According to CollinsCOBUILD: If somethong happens over a paryicular period of time or over something such as a meal, it happens during the time or during the meal.
for example: The number of attacks on the capital had gone down over the past week.
If you have a dream, go get it!
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文章dibert8 » 2007-06-09 12:37

A級垂耳兔 \$m[1]:哈...想不到竟然被我找到相似的原文
http://www.safarix.com/0131896431/ch06
看起來似乎答案E比較接近結構....
莫老師說是C...大家看著辦吧...


原文在這兒:
In eightenth-century Britain, coal replaced charcoal as the fuel in the smelting of iron ore. As well, improvements in blowing machinery allowed a tripling of the average of ironworks over the course of the eighteenth century.
(Ch.6, Technology and American Society: A History, 2ed)
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文章dibert8 » 2007-06-09 12:54

(C) charcoal's being 算不算名詞 (= charcoal) 呢?
i.e. With {charcoal’s being} replaced by coal as the fuel used in the smelting of iron ore and several improvements in blowing machinery, the average output of ironwork tripled over the eighteenth century.
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文章shirley720622 » 2007-07-10 18:01

A級垂耳兔 \$m[1]:哈...想不到竟然被我找到相似的原文
http://www.safarix.com/0131896431/ch06
看起來似乎答案E比較接近結構....
莫老師說是C...大家看著辦吧...



莫老師說是C的理由是什麼呢
他有沒有說其他答案錯的的原因呢
謝謝
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文章positivegal » 2007-09-23 18:20

看這題的(B)忽然想到~莫伯伯曾經說過: be due to放句中不選...
先不管這題究竟答案是A or B or C...
小的是想請問為何be due to放句中就不選啊? ;-$
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文章rino » 2007-10-24 23:29

(恕刪)
最後由 rino 於 2007-10-24 23:31 編輯,總共編輯了 1 次。
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文章rino » 2007-10-24 23:29

莫老師說:
ABE) over和the course of 是redundency
A)and前後沒有平衡
BD) replacement題目動詞答案名詞不好
C的being因為前面是所有格所以不能省

所以是C

大家參考看看
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文章小花 » 2007-11-23 15:54

In eightenth-century Britain, coal replaced charcoal as the fuel in the smelting of iron ore. As well, improvements in blowing machinery allowed a tripling of the average of ironworks over the course of the eighteenth century

E. Charcoal being replaced by coal as the fuel used in the smelting of iron ore, and several improvements in blowing machinery, which tripled the average output of ironwork over the course of the eighteenth century.
雖然E和原文很像 但不像是正確答案
which用的很爭議

C. With charcoal’s being replaced by coal as the fuel used in the smelting of iron ore and several improvements in blowing machinery, the average output of ironwork tripled over the eighteenth century.
C選項比較像正確答案 但又值得再多討論
with 表原因修飾主句


With charcoal’s being replaced by coal as the fuel used in the smelting of iron ore and several improvements in blowing machinery,好像不平衡,粗體字部分用的頗怪的 *-)



With: You use with to introduce a current situation that is a factor affecting another situation.
With all the night school courses available, there is no excuse for not getting some sort of training...
With the win, the US reclaimed the cup for the first time since 1985.
from Collins
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文章Laurence » 2007-11-23 18:18

Q18:
Over the course of the eighteenth century, the average output of ironwork tripled as a result of several improvements in blowing machinery and because coal replaced charcoal as the fuel used in the smelting of iron ore.

A.Over the course of the eighteenth century, the average output of ironwork tripled as a result of several improvements in blowing machinery and because coal replaced charcoal as the fuel used in the smelting of iron ore.

as a result of + N and because + 子句 => 結構不對稱 => 錯

B.Over the course of the eighteenth century a tripling in the average output of ironwork was due to the replacement of charcoal by coal for the fuel used in the smelting of iron ore, in addition to several improvements in blowing machinery.

be due to 第一個原因, in addition to + 第二個原因 => 感覺起來improvements in blowing machinery 的地位比replacement of charcoal by coal 還低 => 改變句意(原本句意應該是兩個原因並重所以用 "and") => 錯

C.With charcoal’s being replaced by coal as the fuel used in the smelting of iron ore and several improvements in blowing machinery, the average output of ironwork tripled over the eighteenth century.



D.The replacement of charcoal with coal for the fuel used in the smelting of iron ore and several improvements in blowing machinery, the average output of ironwork tripled over the eighteenth century.

The replacement of charcoal with coal for the fuel used in the smelting of iron ore and several improvements in blowing machinery 之前要加with 才可以修飾全句 => 錯

E.Charcoal being replaced by coal as the fuel used in the smelting of iron ore, and several improvements in blowing machinery, which tripled the average output of ironwork over the course of the eighteenth century.

整個句字沒有動詞(謂語) => 錯

以上是小弟的看法, 有錯請指教 ^^
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文章hwatai » 2007-11-23 20:55

Prep詳解某篇中有提到,句意上的完整呈現 優於 結構上的平衡 (我已經找不到是哪一題說的了,但該題正確答案就是結構上不平衡但句意完整)

基於此點,(A)的and前後雖不平衡,但是清楚點名兩個reason,支持(A)

(C)的幾個不好處:

0. 畫線內的and 前後有平衡嗎,and 後面的improvement跟誰平衡?

1. with子句落落長,頭重腳輕,這種句子太差了;片語要輕薄短小,搞得這麼長應該改用副詞子句

2. with子句一用下去,子句之間的因果關係不見

3. charcoal’s being replaced by,為何不用charcoal's replacement by
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