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帖子CUGGYER » 2005-09-14 23:22

A. including among them the threat from a rival’s multibillion-dollar patentinfringement suit and the declining sales for
B. which includes the threat of a rival’s multibillion-dollar patent-infringement suit and declining sales of
C. included among these the threat from a rival’s multibillion-dollar patentinfringement suit as well as a decline in sales for
D. among them the threat of a rival’s multibillion-dollar patent-infringement suit and the decline in sales of
E. among these the threat from a rival’s multibillion-dollar patent-infringement suit as well as the decline in sales for


好像沒有人討論到這個部分
請問 of 跟for在這裡意思有什麼差別嗎
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帖子Janet » 2005-09-15 13:43

christina \$m[1]:請教一下~
我想不透among these challenges 應該是可以省略 challeges,而成among these ...
them是those的受格?
among them一直讓我誤以為them是指代investors.. *-)


推!!這也是我的疑問 : (1)them不是只能帶人嗎?? 所以如果要帶challenges,不是要用these代???

(2)第二疑問:
引述CD上ring_cheng的說法
"ring_cheng:
我认为among them the threat of .... and the decline in sales of .....是倒装后的独立主格,而独立主格是可以还原为正常的句子的,还原后即是 (and) the threat of .... and the decline in sales of.... are among them."

我的疑問是,這個說法是對的嗎???因為本題我就是卡在不知道逗點後面的句子功能是什麼!!!

(3)第三疑問:facing the company這句子修飾誰??或如何還原??
若修飾challenge,那就還原成
challenges which face the company
這樣句意不是很奇怪嗎??

請各位解惑!!3Q^^
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帖子gullings » 2005-09-17 01:23

廖唯甄 \$m[1]:
推!!這也是我的疑問 : (1)them不是只能帶人嗎?? 所以如果要帶challenges,不是要用these代???them可以指代人事物

(2)第二疑問:
引述CD上ring_cheng的說法
"ring_cheng:
我认为among them the threat of .... and the decline in sales of .....是倒装后的独立主格,而独立主格是可以还原为正常的句子的,还原后即是 (and) the threat of .... and the decline in sales of.... are among them."

我的疑問是,這個說法是對的嗎???因為本題我就是卡在不知道逗點後面的句子功能是什麼!!!
是對的 ,就是補充說明前面的challenges
與including的用法相當 但這裡including會有歧意

(3)第三疑問:facing the company這句子修飾誰??或如何還原??
若修飾challenge,那就還原成
challenges which face the company
這樣句意不是很奇怪嗎??

關於這個我也有疑惑
請教各位大大嚕~~~


請各位解惑!!3Q^^
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帖子cheyen » 2005-09-27 17:02

我對A還是有些疑問耶...
A. including among them the threat from a rival’s multibillion-dollar patentinfringement suit and the declining sales for

因為原句在 including 前有逗號---> , including
所以自己大約判斷了一下題意
題目要講的是2個challenges
所以因為including 前有逗號且加上題意
including 必不是修飾company而是challenges
我的想法哪有問題哩?
麻煩前輩幫我解答一下 :sad
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帖子enim » 2005-10-14 16:42

gullings \$m[1]:
廖唯甄 \$m[1]:
推!!這也是我的疑問 : (1)them不是只能帶人嗎?? 所以如果要帶challenges,不是要用these代???them可以指代人事物

(2)第二疑問:
引述CD上ring_cheng的說法
"ring_cheng:
我认为among them the threat of .... and the decline in sales of .....是倒装后的独立主格,而独立主格是可以还原为正常的句子的,还原后即是 (and) the threat of .... and the decline in sales of.... are among them."

我的疑問是,這個說法是對的嗎???因為本題我就是卡在不知道逗點後面的句子功能是什麼!!!
是對的 ,就是補充說明前面的challenges
與including的用法相當 但這裡including會有歧意


(3)第三疑問:facing the company這句子修飾誰??或如何還原??
若修飾challenge,那就還原成
challenges which face the company
這樣句意不是很奇怪嗎??

關於這個我也有疑惑
請教各位大大嚕~~~


請各位解惑!!3Q^^


第三個疑問...

hear+Obj+Ving

At the annual stockholders meeting, investors heard a presentation on the numerous challenges facing the company, including among them the threat from a rival’s multibillion-dollar patent-infringement suit and the declining sales for the company’s powerful microprocessor chip.

所以facing應該不是關代省略吧...
有錯請指正 屑屑... ;-$
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帖子cynthiachan » 2005-10-15 17:05

同意你的說法
我剛剛從字典上查到一個句子
They stood facing each other......
我也覺得解釋為關代怪怪的
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帖子chihhan123 » 2005-10-19 01:10

CUGGYER \$m[1]:A. including among them the threat from a rival’s multibillion-dollar patentinfringement suit and the declining sales for
B. which includes the threat of a rival’s multibillion-dollar patent-infringement suit and declining sales of
C. included among these the threat from a rival’s multibillion-dollar patentinfringement suit as well as a decline in sales for
D. among them the threat of a rival’s multibillion-dollar patent-infringement suit and the decline in sales of
E. among these the threat from a rival’s multibillion-dollar patent-infringement suit as well as the decline in sales for


好像沒有人討論到這個部分
請問 of 跟for在這裡意思有什麼差別嗎


sales " of " 是介係詞慣用語,沒有 sales for...只有 for sale

這題用介係詞、代名詞which位置,就可以得到答案了
sales 用 of 不用 for (A)(C)(E)不選
(B) which 指 company 不選
答案(D)

其他句義的部份,請參考前面的幾篇吧...
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帖子陳靜靜 » 2005-11-07 15:48

莫北北說本題答案D

on....challenges........among them
此處them為challenges
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帖子SELVICHY » 2005-11-17 11:07

此題的答案選項真是遜到爆...
ACE必錯就不講了,
B的話,如果沒有facing the company,那which就相當完美,
不過以目前的狀況,他不僅造成指代不清,而且includes的動詞單複數型態也錯了.
D的話,我只能說更爛.以代名詞優先代替原提主詞的鐵則而言,
這題我如果要說them可以指investors,文法上絕對正確,只不過句意不通.
所以如果如果將句意至上的規則拿出來,那麼把them合理化為challenges,D選項就說得通了.
只不過,怎麼看都還是爛到爆就是了啦!!!
寫出這種鳥題目跟鳥選項的ETS應該去喝王水,然後每天默念一百遍 "我以後不敢再寫出代名詞不能代替原提主詞的題目了."
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帖子anlun9 » 2006-03-08 13:50

老莫老師解釋說

A)including是及物動詞,後面要直接加受詞,不能加了介係詞among再加受詞

B)依句意,which代challenges所以後面的includes錯,要改成複數動詞include

C)同A,且these不知道要代誰

E)指示代名詞後面通常要接of...所以這邊的these後面直接the threat from....不選

D)依句意,them代challenges且答案中有and可以找平衡發現,the threat of....and the decline in sales of...平衡了
所以
答案D

另外老師補充
題目中 a presentation on 介係詞是on
大佬,我的要求不多,500就好
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帖子FannyHsieh » 2006-03-09 23:27

B好像有其它問題?
which includes the threat of a rival’s multibillion-dollar patent-infringement suit and declining sales of

我會覺得不平衡是因為第二個名詞沒有加冠詞......而原題有
剛好正確答案D有加:Q
再來是ACDE都有among唯獨B的among不見了,稍稍先提高警覺
而至於among them的用法,我一直認為會列出三個,但答案只有兩個還是硬著頭皮選了D@@
them以句意的話是表challenges沒錯:S
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帖子ck1109 » 2006-05-31 23:12

anlun9 \$m[1]:老莫老師解釋說

A)including是及物動詞,後面要直接加受詞,不能加了介係詞among再加受詞

B)依句意,which代challenges所以後面的includes錯,要改成複數動詞include

請問一下 which 可以跳過 company 修飾 challenges ? ?
不是只有 N1 介 N2 關代
才可以這樣搞的嗎 ? ?


C)同A,且these不知道要代誰

E)指示代名詞後面通常要接of...所以這邊的these後面直接the threat from....不選

D)依句意,them代challenges且答案中有and可以找平衡發現,the threat of....and the decline in sales of...平衡了
所以
答案D

另外老師補充
題目中 a presentation on 介係詞是on
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帖子Huang Hsin-Yi » 2008-05-09 21:41

enim \$m[1]:
gullings \$m[1]:



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第三個疑問...

hear+Obj+Ving

At the annual stockholders meeting, investors heard a presentation on the numerous challenges facing the company, including among them the threat from a rival’s multibillion-dollar patent-infringement suit and the declining sales for the company’s powerful microprocessor chip.

所以facing應該不是關代省略吧...

"facing....." here is adj clause, modifying the"challenges"

有錯請指正 屑屑... ;-$
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帖子ad264 » 2008-05-21 23:39

推一下chihhan123的說法!
among them ....是a nominative absolute http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominative_absolute
Look on the bright side
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帖子telma13 » 2008-07-03 17:20

我有個疑問是關於這題 threat "from" 和 threat "of"的差異
不知道有沒有人可以解答一下~~
Thanks!
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