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[cheyen]

D) extremes of temperature, precipitation, and storminess, the most obvious effects, that they would have the largest impact on people.
選D就沒有了主動詞囉

sorry...因為我選D
沒主動詞...不是有嗎?
就紅色部分不是都有顯示出來哩
麻煩前被敲一下我的投 指點一下^^

[EVAN HUNG]

D) extremes of temperature, precipitation, and storminess, the most obvious effects, that they would have the largest impact on people.
選D就沒有了主動詞囉

sorry...因為我選D
沒主動詞...不是有嗎?
就紅色部分不是都有顯示出來哩
麻煩前被敲一下我的投 指點一下^^

indicated that + S + V
D會變成
indicated that extremes of temperature, precipitation, and storminess(主詞), the most obvious effects(同位語), that they would have the largest impact on people(名詞子句).
沒動詞啦~~

[EVAN HUNG]

請問
A) the most obvious effects, and those that would have the largest impact on people, would be extremes of temperature, precipitation, and storminess.
those 跟 that 分別是指什麼? 當初看到這個覺得好怪就不敢選

those 指 impacts
這邊有兩種impacts( the most obvious and the largest)

如果是降的話，那and those that would have the largest impact on people前後有必要打"，"嗎?

然後請問，that子句是修飾those嗎?

[CUGGYER]

the most obvious effects, and those that would have the largest impact on people, would be extremes of temperature, precipitation, and storminess.

據說 這裡是插入句
,and those effects that would .... 還原後

主詞是 the most obvious effects
動詞是would be

,and當插入句 可以參考 og40題 (總結前述討論)

我的解法 也麻煩大家看看有沒有理解錯誤
B the effects (that are) the most obvious ones 不簡潔
are the most obvious ones, extremes of temperature,
precipitation, and storminess,
,and造成ambiguity
C are (what are) the most obvious effects. 不簡潔
D 沒有動詞
E which 指稱不明確
並且將句子的主詞受詞顛倒 改變句意

[林小馬]

我想請問有人選E嗎~~~~~~~
我竟然選了E~~~
我那時候的想法是這樣的

E) extremes of temperature, precipitation, and storminess, which are the most obvious effects, are those to impact the most on people.
沒有指稱不明的情況呢
因為它是用which are 所以一定是指extremes呢
而且他是extremes of XXX 所以後面的of XXX只是形容extremes
真正的名詞應該是extremes

不過其實我選E是因為句意啦
這樣講起來好像比較順
這些極端的天氣現象,也就是最明顯的effect,正是影響人類最大的
清楚地指出"極端的天氣"="最明顯的effect"="影響人類最大"

我擔心的反而是E選項的最後to impact the most on people
有沒有文法錯誤

那為什麼那時候沒選標準答案A呢
A) the most obvious effects, and those that would have the largest impact on people, would be extremes of temperature, precipitation, and storminess.
因為這樣很像沒有明確指出"最明顯的effect"="影響最大的"
反而是最明顯的和影響最大的是極端的天氣
好像最明顯的和影響最大的是不同的東西
我覺得好像沒有那麼清楚耶

可以幫我看一下E最主要的問題嗎
多謝多謝喔

[CUGGYER]

Discussion of greenhouse effects has usually focused on whether the Earth would warm and by how much, but climatologists have indicated all along that

這是選項畫線的前文 他是說溫室效應大多著重地球暖化及其程度
但氣候學家指出:

依照文意 他不是在討論這些氣候造成人的影響
而且著重在問溫室效應的結果的哪些 (對人影響很大 只是他補充說明)

因此E才是把句子重心轉移

而WHICH大多就近指代 避免造成ambiguity
(溫度 沉澱 颶風)去修飾極端 漫不合理的

而且those 無法指稱effects 那extreams = those extremes

最後是to 通常表目的
這裡用that會好一點

[stilalala]

很抱歉
小的資質駑鈍

看了前面的討論
還是想問一個問題
麻煩各位幫忙解答一下

, and those ....,
中間這邊的成分應該是插入語沒錯
但我有點不清楚的是
those (effects )that would have the largest impact on people

是只前面的effects ,還是另外的effects呢

謝謝

[SELVICHY]

各位:
DE是錯的.
the most obvious effects是指storminess還是extremes?
修飾誤植,
另外extremes of temperature, precipitation, and storminess是什麼句意?
溫度的極端,雨量的極端,風暴的極端?根本沒有句意可言.
BC必錯就不用探討了.
A的句意有人看不懂,他的句意是說
那些最明顯的,而且(同樣也是)對人造成最大影響的效果.....
懂了嗎?

[tsaowen]

轉貼我看到的詳解 (不知道出處就是了)

首先用indicate that 後面應該是句子，d先排除，e中的which指代問題排除，（可以指前面三個或最近的那個）c。effects to have；b中定語從句that明顯羅唆C、E，時態不對，因為不是事實，應該用虛擬would

用would 來解題
排除C E兩個選項

另外想問的是A跟B impact可以用largest 或 most 修飾都對嗎?


open to discuss~

[wenlovying]

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轉貼我看到的詳解 (不知道出處就是了)

首先用indicate that 後面應該是句子，d先排除，e中的which指代問題排除，（可以指前面三個或最近的那個）c。effects to have；b中定語從句that明顯羅唆C、E，時態不對，因為不是事實，應該用虛擬would

用would 來解題
排除C E兩個選項

另外想問的是A跟B impact可以用largest 或 most 修飾都對嗎?
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e 不覺得有指代問題耶~ 但是不應用are 要用would假設法～
　
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[superruby]

"those" sould imply "effects"
otherwise the sentence is very strange: IMPACT have the hargests IMPACT on people.

[crazykai]

A. the most obvious effects, and those that would have the largest impact on people, would be extremes of temperature, precipitation, and storminess

想請問一下A的結構，感覺這邊兩個逗點的用法很奇怪

以第一個逗號來說 and的平行對象就不清楚

而would be是作為 obvious effects and those (effects)的動詞呢

還是obvious effects ??

[dibert8]

, and ... , 為附屬結構,目的在補充說明.
effects, and those 平衡.
would be 是 effects 的動詞: the most obvious effects would be ... 是 that 子句的主要結構.