[問題]GWD3-Q39

[odinhsu]

請問一下A哪裡不好....??

[davidlee0222]

A是對的

[cocaine]

認同liwuu分析....

A選項第一各and有點怪異..雖然毎各動詞有平衡,可是compare with在那各and
之後句意似乎有點模糊..
不知道是跟minicar比,還是跟minicar載7個人去比後面的特性..

D的話是說minicar能載7個人(第一優點)..且有後面以下優點..

[odinhsu]

大衛....
答案不是D嗎 ?

[odinhsu]

雖然說莫老師這題選D(理由忘了，我整理出來再貼上)
但我還是要幫A 再拉一票，注意喔，請把 A. Minivans carry as many as seven passengers and, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less, 中的
, compared with most sport utility vehicles,
看成是插入句，你不覺得A比D更好嗎

AGK大...
可不可以講講莫北北的說法?

[bestjavabean]

Minivans carry as many as seven passengers and, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less, get better gas mileage, allow passengers to get in and out more easily, and have a smoother ride. A
A 錯得很明顯阿 carry and,compared with most ...(當插入句的話), cost , get , allow , and have 變成 carry and cost平行 get, aloow, and have 三個平行
句意超怪...

D. Minivans, carrying as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less, 後面三個V 平衡...
compared 我覺得 當分詞 修飾前面 carrying as many as seven pasenger 這一句.

[agk99]

A錯在多一個and
D則是carrying 與 compared之前分別省略了 which are

[reohuang]

Q39:
Minivans carry as many as seven passengers and, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less, get better gas mileage, allow passengers to get in and out more easily, and have a smoother ride.

A. Minivans carry as many as seven passengers and, compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less,

B. Minivans, which carry as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles, they cost less,

C. Minivans carry as many as seven passengers, in comparison with most sport utility vehicles, and have a lower cost, they

D. Minivans, carrying as many as seven passengers,
compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less,

E. Minivans, which carry as many as seven passengers, compared with most sport utility vehicles the cost is lower, and they

如上面的幾篇posts所言
A的compared with most sport utility vehicles當作modify插入的部分先跳過
A會變成carry...and cost..., get..., allow..., and have...的平衡
的確是多了一個and

D的話Minivans cost..., get..., allow..., and have...平衡的很對稱
carrying as many as seven passengers視為形容詞子句的減化，用來modify Minivans
compared with most sport utility vehicles視為副詞子句的減化，用來modify後面的幾個動詞
這樣就不會有兩個形容詞子句沒有and連接的情況

請繼續討論~

[Calvin]

I agree w/ Reo

[davidlee0222]

小弟個人以為用主從結構判斷
答案會變A(只是個人判斷的啦)

分辭次要結構可先當沒看到不影響主要結構
A在講兩個件事
而第二件是包含四件小事
第一個鬥號後compared...分辭補述是次要結構
當作沒看到
M這種車
第一件事是可載七人
第二件是共有四件小事
分別是ㄅㄆㄇㄈ
完全平衡
且分辭補述清楚指涉M車

D第一個鬥號後有一個分辭次要結構
第二個鬥號後又有一個分辭次要結構
當然可以兩個都當作沒看到
會出現幾個問題
一是主軸意義改變
指講ㄅㄆㄇㄈ四件事
前面次要結構都不是主軸
因此主軸意義改變

二是同時出現兩個分辭補述
第一個分辭補述明確指涉M車
但第二個分辭補述就不清楚到底是指涉M車
還是在講前一個分辭補述
甚至有可能講到passengers
有ambiguity之嫌

第三個是沒看過歐雞有兩個次要結構同時出現的
照理來說主軸結構中插入次要結構補述
兩逗點後要回到主線結構
結果要回來時居然又是次要結構
會造成該出現主要動辭的主要結構沒有動辭
卻變成分辭
結構意義謬誤
因此小弟不敢選D

小弟再整理歐雞詳解看看能不能找到
關於兩個連續次要結構的規則

[agk99]

我倒覺得你的主/次要結構，還是可以適用於D
中間的carrying不看, compared也不看
也就是minivans cost less, get.........and.....
A選項的and你很難解釋的啦

[davidlee0222]

現在問題就卡在能不能連續出現兩個次要結構的分辭
因為歐雞裡都是兩個鬥號中的插入句一跳過
就會回到主要結構
這樣D就會出問題
變成回到主要結構卻是分辭沒有動辭
而第二個分辭也會不知道在講M車
還是在講第一個分辭

A如果看成兩大主軸
而第二主軸包括四件事
這樣第一個and連接兩大主軸
而後面是四件事用and連接所構成的第二主軸
這樣就能解釋了

記得在CD上也是分成兩派
聽說790mindfree是贊同A
不過還是要找找歐雞有無此項規則

[吉法師]

D. Minivans, carrying as many as seven passengers,
compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less....

還原應為
D. Minivans, which carry as many as seven passengers, that are
compared with most sport utility vehicles, cost less,

注意第二個關代應用 that 而非which
所以which該句視為同位語

答案是d

[davidlee0222]

不不
過度推論
此提無法還原

分辭與關代無法互相替換
which非限定關代與that也無法替換
that純粹補述
無限定概念
另外which做限定用法跟非限定用法也不一樣
that因為無限定概念所以都無法替換

which必修飾前最接近名詞
分辭則有三種可能
1.前最接近名詞
2.前較遠名詞
3.前整句
而that無限定概念
且主要功能為補述
可能補述很前面的主軸名詞
which就不能這樣用

吉法師可能歐姬還不熟或補習班技巧中毒
這提主要是討論當兩個分辭插入語連續出現時
跳過第一個插入語後是否要回到主線結構
若不需要回主線
D就只要解決雙向修飾問題
看是到底在講M車還是在講前一句分辭插入句
但若需要回主線
D就會沒有主要動辭

[davidlee0222]

補充一下
在歐機中從沒看過兩插入語連續出現有對過的
因為歐機都是兩鬥號插入語一跳過
就立即回到主線結構
要查一下是不是兩插入語連續出現
第二插入語一定要回主線