[問題]GWD 30-Q41

[阿琪]

用"which" 代前面整句~~~這個原則都能通過的話…很多題目都要改答案囉！！！

老莫給的答案是a，我想他應該是有另個更充實的理由，而非which 可代前面整句這個原則~
再者…while/ whereas 以及but 都可以表達出句意

the fact that ... ... but that 這樣的平行概念，顯然是和其它的題目考點搞混了…，從句意來判斷或許能夠體會的出！

這題或許如老莫給的答案是a ~~但可能須要再討論囉！

[dibert8]

也許我們對 which 的了解不夠,雖然 SC 的題目 99.9% 的 which 意圖指代整句一定錯,是不是在某些情況, which 允許指代句子? 這麼多人這樣用,老美也用,然而 GMAT 究竟想傳達什麼訊息? (e.g. 不要濫用)

看來看去總覺得 (B) 的句子1.不簡潔-- the fact 多餘, 2.頭重腳輕, 3.不對稱-- the fact..., but they...

(A) 的主要結構: Elk now live almost solely in the Rocky Mountains, while they once ranged over virtually all of the continental United States except for a small strip in the extreme Southwest. 插句去掉,其實是個獨立的句子.也就是說 which... 在這句裡無足輕重,補進插句,似乎旨在說明前面那件事情.這個情形下, which 形同外人,句子對句子,修飾全句是不是就合理了?

純屬憶測: which 指代句子的合法性. (做到目前這一題之前, which 指代全句的選項,沒有一個是對的)

[chris8888]

不過,

B. The fact that elk now live almost solely in the Rocky Mountains would make it seem that they are mountain dwellers, but ...
=> S + V, but S + V
=> The fact would make ..., but S + V 還是有動詞呀, 也解決了A). 不能夠用which refers back to 的問題.

Tha fact 當作一整件事, 就是elk只住在山裡這件一事, 讓.....如何如何.....所以B卻較優
在ETS, 考試時, ", whcich " 這樣的指代實在成功率很低.

which 的指代, 以及the fact that的用法在OG裡面都被disdain, 但我認為這考題因為要強調elk住在山上的行為事實, 所以意思上會比較clear and concise and compact

同樣是要強調一個事實造成大家以為elk是山居動物, 那位甚麼用", which" 來指代? 不如用the fact that ... 清楚. 該不會這考題是ETS故意的吧, 考驗test-taker遇到兩相為難的決斷力? = ='''

[lucyyeh]

我覺得這一題跟OG某題＂5隻sea eagle小時後飛離故鄉，帶34隻鳥回來..."那一題的結構是一樣的，只是OG那一題沒寫which(我聽老師上課的時候是有講可以補回去)，所以我今天想想道理是一樣的，老師的講法也是前後一貫的，我覺得大家可以參考參考(OG11-43)。

[小花]

我查了一 下文法書

which 可以指代整句話
COLLINS COBUILD P465

評論事實 commenting on a fact
8.110 用"which"引出的非限制性關係子句,可用以說明整個主句的內容,而不是說明主句提及的某人或某事.

Minute computers need only minute amounts of power, which means that they will run on small batteries.
I never met Brando again, which was a pity.
Prior to speaking she was a little tense, which was understandable.


這下糟了! 許多答案要翻案了

[小花]

71. The cameras of the Voyager II spacecraft detected six small, previously unseen moons circling Uranus, which doubles to 12 the number of satellites now known as orbiting the distant planet.
A)which doubles to 12 the number of satellites now known as orbiting
B)doubling to 12 the number of satellites now known to orbit
C)which doubles to 12 the number of satellites now known in orbit around
D)doubling to 12 the number of satellites now known as orbiting
E)which doubles to 12 the number of satellites now known that orbit

Ans: B

OG解釋
In the second part of this sentence, which appears to refer vaguely back to everything that has preceded it instead of referring to a specific noun. Using a participle (doubling) rather than a pronoun (which) allows the phrase to modify properly the entire clause that precedes it.

不用which的原因是 which 可能只代1.moons 2.Uranus 3.主句

而doubling 單純指代主句 ,意思很明白所以為正確選項


which的功能好像需視情況而定

[阿琪]

這裡是 "GMAT" 的文法 － 強調準確、精簡、達義－
GMAT裡頭，一些選項的文法也都對，但沒法達到"準確、精簡或達義"的效果

例如：
為何 can > able to > ability....
whether >if
no > not any ....

which代前面整句…一般的文法當然可以通，口說更是常用到爆… ( 尤其是講了一堆話之後，就來個which means....)

但在gmat的要求下~須去遵守它的遊戲規則及瞭解其用意！！！ (有點像是學術寫作的訓練)


以上 參考 ○魯！

[dibert8]

同樣一題在 OG10-Q49 的解釋:
The pronoun which should be used to refer to a previously mentioned noun, not to the idea expressed in an entire clause. In A, C, and E, which seems to refer to a vague concept involving the detection of moons, but there is no specific noun, such as detection, to which it can refer. Also in E, the use of the phrasing the number... now known that orbit is ungrammatical and unclear. B and D use the correct participial form, doubling, to modify the preceding clause, but D, like A, uses known as orbiting rather than known to orbit, a phrase that is more idiomatic in context. B, therefore, is the best answer.

OG11 的 'everything that has preceded it' 似乎應該理解為'在它前面所有的東西' (i.e. 前面的子句). OG 對 which 不能指代句子,看來還蠻堅持.

GWD30-Q41 應該是實際考過的 JJ ,感覺充滿了挑釁.

[小花]

感謝以上兩位前輩的回覆

我想 which 指代前面整句話不能說它是錯的

(仔細去看OG上的解釋 連ETS在解釋時也用which 指代整句話)

只能說它是比較不好的選項

唉!我麼只得依這些G式文法去選較佳的選項了!

[sunnyblue13s]

OG 11 Q50
指出The fact that....這樣的結構 - wordy
所以~~我剛開始做的時候直接就將(B)排除了~~

並且我覺得 it / they的指代對象非常不清楚~~