GWD1-34

[Behemoth]

是這樣省略沒錯

但兩邊的people是不同群

還原成 people in France and people in the united states

這樣就ok了吧

[agk99]

我覺得joseph說的不賴，這裡要是再加一個people，就會變得累贅，甚至有搞混的情況
同一批人會在兩個國家？

同樣的those算是泛指，也就是和that 的功能一樣，只不過是複數，但加一個those其實和加一個people的問題一樣

所以我覺得，（個人感覺），若是一批集合名詞的對比，american, people, 就直接省第二個，語意上會比較自然簡潔

[agk99]

To Micht:
Regarding this question , please refer to OG 53 and OG187 ,
BTW , 最近看你跟 Trish8m 都在做些統整的資料, 很感動
可以找一找此題相關: 比較的省略

這一題舉OG53的理由　小弟就不懂了
還昐再說明

[bugubugu]

Here are the questions that Joseph referred to.

187. In one of the bloodiest battles of the Civil War, fought at Sharpsburg, Maryland, on September 17, 1862, four times as many Americans were killed as would later be killed on the beaches of Normandy during D-Day.

(A) Americans were killed as
(B) Americans were killed than
(C) Americans were killed than those who
(D) more Americans were killed as there
(E) more Americans were killed as those who

Ans: A

Answer to Question 187
Choice A, the best answer, is the only option that accurately expresses the comparison by using the idiomatic
form as many... as. In B and C, as many ... than is unidiomatic, and in C and E, those who is a wordy intrusion.
In D and E, more is redundant because the phrase four times as many in the original sentence conveys the
idea of more.


嗯....
這題解釋說those who is a wordy intrusion...
會讓我想到一題GWD5-Q24(即GWD11-Q4)...
http://www.formosamba.com/phpBB3/viewtopi ... ight=#3390
答案E雖然是答案...
但總覺得what怪怪的...

[micht]

是這樣省略沒錯

但兩邊的people是不同群

還原成 people in France and people in the united states

這樣就ok了吧

這的確可以
但 in 可以省嗎?

[bugubugu]

是這樣省略沒錯

但兩邊的people是不同群

還原成 people in France and people in the united states

這樣就ok了吧

這的確可以
但 in 可以省嗎?

據我上莫北北課的記憶...
他有說過介係詞後面的受詞若不同時...
最好不要省略介詞....
理由是"加強語氣"...
那所反過來說就是若省略介係詞就是沒加強語氣吧....

[bugubugu]

To Micht:
Regarding this question , please refer to OG 53 and OG187 ,
BTW , 最近看你跟 Trish8m 都在做些統整的資料, 很感動
可以找一找此題相關: 比較的省略

這一題舉OG53的理由　小弟就不懂了
還昐再說明

我猜他是要說OG53題那個介詞of不能省的原因....

[josephko]

Hi all:
真抱歉,我只有很少的時間準備,還沒能做橫向總結, 舉了兩個例子是我做OG裡有印象的題目, 其中OG 53 也沒有比較的意思, 但是有省略的結構(當初因為省略哪些東西搞不清而印象深刻). 像這類統整性東西,真得需要像 agK99NN, B NN Liwuu NN的幫忙和大家的討論, 或是Thrish8M大大和Micht 大大有這類的資料就更棒了( Micht你那麼拼應該要做啊!)
OG 53
53. There is no consensus on what role, if any, is played by acid rain in slowing the growth or damaging forests in the eastern United States.
答案(E) damaging or slowing the growth of
我認為是在slowing 前省了acid rain in ,而不是damaging後省了 of
因為damaging 分詞結構 它是Vt的形式 是不須加 of的

那Micht題到的 省略兩邊的不是同一批人,我也想到了我做GWD時也遇到一題有同樣困擾 GWD 3-30
Q30:
Today’s technology allows manufacturers to make small cars more fuel-efficient now than at any time in their production history.

A.small cars more fuel-efficient now than at any time in their
B.small cars that are more fuel-efficient than they were at any time in their
C.small cars that are more fuel-efficient than those at any other time in
D.more fuel-efficient small cars than those at any other time in their
E.more fuel-efficient small cars now than at any time in

正確答案C 也是用了 those

為什麼會有這層疑慮,回想很久,想到OG地殼那題
199. Because the Earth's crust is more solid there and thus better able to transmit shock waves, an earthquake of a given magnitude typically devastates an area 100 times greater in the eastern United States than it does in the West.
(A)of a given magnitude typically devastates an area 100 times greater in the eastern United States than it does in the West
(B)of a given magnitude will typically devastate 100 times the area if it occurs in the eastern United States instead of the West
(C)will typically devastate 100 times the area in the eastern United States than one of comparable magnitude occurring in the West
(D)in the eastern United States will typically devastate an area 100 times greater than will a quake of comparable magnitude occurring in the West
(E)that occurs in the eastern United States will typically devastate 100 times more area than if it occurred with comparable magnitude in the West
At issue is the accurate expression of a complex comparison. Choice D, the best answer, presents the proper form of comparison, will typically devastate an area 100 times greater than will; thus, choice D logically indicates that earthquakes in the eastern United States are 100 times more devastating than are western earthquakes. Choices A, B, and E use it incorrectly to suggest that the same quake strikes both the eastern and the western United States. In choice C, 700 times the area... than is unidiomatic.

OG 這裡只說了複雜的比較結構不能用it代前面提到的 quake , 但事實上我也不確定什麼狀況才算複雜或句意不清, 請agk NN和 B NN再說明一下,我自己的想法是地震損壞牽涉到地區的不同,所以必須說明清楚( Ps:我看筆記上寫了硬梆梆比較,有人可以說明一下什麼時候硬梆梆比較嗎?)

[Pufa]

Hi all:
真抱歉,我只有很少的時間準備,還沒能做橫向總結, 舉了兩個例子是我做OG裡有印象的題目, 其中OG 53 也沒有比較的意思, 但是有省略的結構(當初因為省略哪些東西搞不清而印象深刻). 像這類統整性東西,真得需要像 agK99NN, B NN Liwuu NN的幫忙和大家的討論, 或是Thrish8M大大和Micht 大大有這類的資料就更棒了( Micht你那麼拼應該要做啊!)
OG 53
53. There is no consensus on what role, if any, is played by acid rain in slowing the growth or damaging forests in the eastern United States.
答案(E) damaging or slowing the growth of
我認為是在slowing 前省了acid rain in ,而不是damaging後省了 of
同意大哥的觀點
因為damaging 分詞結構 它是Vt的形式 是不須加 of的

那Micht題到的 省略兩邊的不是同一批人,我也想到了我做GWD時也遇到一題有同樣困擾 GWD 3-30
Q30:
Today’s technology allows manufacturers to make small cars more fuel-efficient now than at any time in their production history.

A.small cars more fuel-efficient now than at any time in their
B.small cars that are more fuel-efficient than they were at any time in their
C.small cars that are more fuel-efficient than those at any other time in
D.more fuel-efficient small cars than those at any other time in their
E.more fuel-efficient small cars now than at any time in

正確答案C 也是用了 those
這裡的意思是比較兩個不同年代裡『較省油的車』的效能。
small cars that are more fuel-efficient than those(small cars that are more fuel-efficient ) at any other time...
為什麼會有這層疑慮,回想很久,想到OG地殼那題
199. Because the Earth's crust is more solid there and thus better able to transmit shock waves, an earthquake of a given magnitude typically devastates an area 100 times greater in the eastern United States than it does in the West.
(A)of a given magnitude typically devastates an area 100 times greater in the eastern United States than it does in the West
(B)of a given magnitude will typically devastate 100 times the area if it occurs in the eastern United States instead of the West
(C)will typically devastate 100 times the area in the eastern United States than one of comparable magnitude occurring in the West
(D)in the eastern United States will typically devastate an area 100 times greater than will a quake of comparable magnitude occurring in the West
(E)that occurs in the eastern United States will typically devastate 100 times more area than if it occurred with comparable magnitude in the West
At issue is the accurate expression of a complex comparison. Choice D, the best answer, presents the proper form of comparison, will typically devastate an area 100 times greater than will; thus, choice D logically indicates that earthquakes in the eastern United States are 100 times more devastating than are western earthquakes. Choices A, B, and E use it incorrectly to suggest that the same quake strikes both the eastern and the western United States. In choice C, 700 times the area... than is unidiomatic.

OG 這裡只說了複雜的比較結構不能用it代前面提到的 quake , 但事實上我也不確定什麼狀況才算複雜或句意不清, 請agk NN和 B NN再說明一下,我自己的想法是地震損壞牽涉到地區的不同,所以必須說明清楚( Ps:我看筆記上寫了硬梆梆比較,有人可以說明一下什麼時候硬梆梆比較嗎?)
[這裡OG的解釋有說『複雜的比較結構不能用it代前面提到的 quake』嗎？ 這題主要是考修飾歧意，跟是不是複雜句型好像沒關係耶 :o

我統整能力很差，看不太清楚這三題有什麼關連.... :(
如果有誤解的地方還請josephko大哥幫我解釋一下

[micht]

people in France and [s]in[/s] the United States consume fatty foods at about the same rate

and 後面省略people
平衡結構不需重復

people in France and [s]people in [/s]United States
=people in France and United States

Prepositions in Parallel Form 轉自文法書

When two words or phrases are used in parallel and require the same preposition to be idiomatically correct, the preposition does not have to be used twice.You can wear that outfit in summer and in winter.

The female was both attracted by and distracted [s]by[/s] the male's dance.

However, when the idiomatic use of phrases calls for different prepositions, we must be careful not to omit one of them.

The children were interested in and disgusted by the movie.

應該是這樣吧~~ (CC) (CC) 這樣可能比較合理



我也有聽過老莫說介系詞不同 不可以刪
但我沒聽過加強語氣可以刪?

PS: 以後我不敢再回SC問題了 覺得順 但解釋不出原因~@_@ 不要誤導大家ㄏㄏ

[魚]

據我上莫北北課的記憶...
他有說過介係詞後面的受詞若不同時...
最好不要省略介詞....
[highlight=#00ffff]理由是"加強語氣"...[/highlight]<--- 注意!!!!布穀你記錯了....

介係詞不省略 不是因為 "加強語氣"

而是因為 "清楚"

那所反過來說就是若省略介係詞就是沒加強語氣吧.... <--沒這種說法 @@

在這裡就算省略主詞與介係詞 , 也沒有人會誤認 同一批人一下在法蘭斯一下在美國吧 @@ ,

不要汰鑽牛角尖了 各位

[魚]

199. Because the Earth's crust is more solid there and thus better able to transmit shock waves, an earthquake of a given magnitude typically devastates an area 100 times greater in the eastern United States than it does in the West.

這裡OG的解釋有說『複雜的比較結構不能用it代前面提到的 quake』嗎？ 沒有醬說

(a)選項會讓人誤以為 同一個地震 同時發生在兩個不同的地方. 這是不符合事實的
.It's why

[Ethan]

魚老大:"不要汰鑽牛角尖了 各位"

真是一語驚醒夢中人!! (Y) (Y) (Y) (Y) (Y)
請你喝杯拿鐵 (CC) :P

[best555tw]

我覺得
(D) 變成 the rate of fatty foods is the same
而不是吃fatty foods的人的比例
改變句意
(E)既然the rate of people 是單數
就應該用A is the same as B
所以應該是 the rate of people consuming fatty foods is about the same in France as in the United States, the......

不然就要用複數rates are the same in France and the United States

[zhangone]

Joseph的意思是說省略主詞嚕?

B) people in France and the United States consume fatty foods at about the same rate, the

那就表示是 people in France and those in the United States...
我怎麼感覺仍然不通 people 可以在France又同時在US???

can someone help? thanks

B) people in France and (people in) the United States consume fatty foods
我個人認為是括號內省略

非常抱歉，我只看到第1頁就回覆了...
(原來第2頁已經有人說了)