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文章chihhan123 » 2005-10-18 00:12

用both反而造成歧義吧

未畫線部分: the stride-piano tradition of W.Smith and Duke Ellington
指由W.Smith and Duke Ellington "共同" 所立下的stride-piano的傳統

用法應該比照 the combination of science and art
指的是一件事,而非兩件事

應該不能用 both A and B
所以這一題有both都錯

套黃冠文老師的話,both是來亂的....

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文章stilalala » 2005-11-09 11:31

D. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted

想請問一下
這裡的that是要修飾work, 還是 a body of work呢
好像 a body of work 比較合理??

謝謝
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文章Lory » 2005-11-28 21:08

stilalala \$m[1]:D. Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted

想請問一下
這裡的that是要修飾work, 還是 a body of work呢
好像 a body of work 比較合理??

謝謝


我覺得重點在work上面,別想的那麼複雜,應該是說a body of 充其量不過是類似形容詞的名詞片語,總之你要把它看成是a body of work,或work都行。
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文章ck1109 » 2006-05-31 17:49

請問
若改成
Jazz pianist and composer Thelonious Monk produced a body of work that was rooted in the stride-piano tradition of both Willie (The Lion) Smith and Duke Ellington, yet in many ways he stood apart from the mainstream jazz repertory.

這樣可以嗎?
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文章Penny Lee » 2006-10-08 16:01

請問,

Jazz pianist and composer ", " Thelonious Monk.... 在這之間加上逗號是以同位語方式呈現, 那答案沒有加逗號, Jazz pianist and composer與Thelonious Monk是什麼樣的辭性關係呢?
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文章kaori110 » 2006-10-21 10:46

Penny Lee \$m[1]:請問,

Jazz pianist and composer ", " Thelonious Monk.... 在這之間加上逗號是以同位語方式呈現, 那答案沒有加逗號, Jazz pianist and composer與Thelonious Monk是什麼樣的辭性關係呢?


其實也是同位語(頭銜是同位語)
EX: poet T.S Eliot

下面是TAIPEI TIMES的一小段

President Chen Shui-bian (陳水扁) said last night that he would relinquish his party responsibilities and focus solely on doing his job as the president, leaving it to ranking Cabinet and Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) members to make their own calls on other matters.

有沒有發現前面都不用加冠詞喔
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文章ggethan » 2007-08-26 20:27

整理一下:

the number of N複 +V單 講某東西的數量
a/any number of N複 +V複 大量的某東西(可數)
a body of= a large amount of N單 +V單 大量的某東西(不可數) 所以本題用a body of work that was...
a large proportion of N單 +V單/N複 +V複 大部份的某東西(可數不可數皆可用) ex. a large proportion of the earth's surface is.../a large proportion of women work...
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文章chencraig0227 » 2008-04-14 12:15

chihhan123 \$m[1]:用both反而造成歧義吧

未畫線部分: the stride-piano tradition of W.Smith and Duke Ellington
指由W.Smith and Duke Ellington "共同" 所立下的stride-piano的傳統

用法應該比照 the combination of science and art
指的是一件事,而非兩件事

應該不能用 both A and B
所以這一題有both都錯

套黃冠文老師的話,both是來亂的....

請NN指導


句意上如果不是共同創立的 而是分別創立的話 (B)的用法是對的嗎??

變成是

...rooted both in the stride-piano tradition of W.Smith and (in the stride-paino tradition of) Duke Ellington
→反藍變成就資訊省略?
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剛剛自己想了想 應該不能省 至少要補出of
不然會被誤解為"共同"
也很少看過(沒有看過?) both 前後有省略的習慣!!

open to discuss...
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文章ilovecushi » 2008-05-01 11:34

句意上如果不是共同創立的 而是分別創立的話 (B)的用法是對的嗎??

變成是

...rooted both in the stride-piano tradition of W.Smith and (in the stride-paino tradition of) Duke Ellington
→反藍變成就資訊省略?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

剛剛自己想了想 應該不能省 至少要補出of
不然會被誤解為"共同"
也很少看過(沒有看過?) both 前後有省略的習慣!!

open to discuss...[/quote]

i think in "both.. and" structured sentence, there is no 省略吧!
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文章ad264 » 2008-05-21 22:48

這題考both用法,

正確用法為in both X and Y 或 both in X and in Y

錯誤用法為both in X and Y

另外B還有一個錯誤,應該要寫 a jazz pianist

有興趣者可看以下連結
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