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永遠是「句意」為上...文法次之...

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文章davidlee0222 » 2005-02-23 17:22

哈哈哈
大哥真是一語道破ㄚ~

莫北北的技巧解法對於入門級提供快速管道
但深入研讀歐雞後將會發現
歐雞一貫以句意精髓的"結構意義"及"文意邏輯"
來做題型主軸
解題思路與技巧無直接關係
ETS並不知道有being少選

不是莫北北不好
而是若要在AT困境中有所突破
590瓶頸必須拋開技巧解法
忘去套招重練嫁衣神功

修行在個人
一個一個選項自行列出問題點
逐一比對ETS詳解
隨便找個牛人來問
歐雞才是聖經中的達文西密碼

板上補教名師解不出來的至少數十題
關鍵都是句意即結構意義
邏輯閱讀也一樣
必須全文了解
AT基本上不像托福
無法依"某關鍵字"來解題
看了"輕功水上飄"就會有所了解
詳情請至RC版
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文章agk99 » 2005-02-23 17:40

你老兄果然是學行銷的
搞得和賣藥的沒兩樣
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文章davidlee0222 » 2005-02-23 18:04

哈哈哈
附加價值嘛

跟小弟的業務經驗比較有關~
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文章Chang,Stella » 2005-04-15 15:58

Behemoth \$m[1]:我也選c

但是理由跟金剛妹不太一樣

其實a跟c的用法都是可以的,只是意思不同

times....more than...的確像micht所說是--比...大幾倍
times...as likely as...則是---是...的幾倍

雖然兩者意思不同,但是都是可以的

我選c的理由是be likely to 是慣用語 所以選他

但另外想和大家討論一下plan to V 跟plan on Ving 兩者意思上的不同

我選A吔, 我的想法是
1. 句意是少數graduates和其他多數的graduates在比, 用more than比as--as來的顯現差異
2. as--as 第一個as應是副詞, 第二個as應為連接詞, 在第二個as後找不到主動詞
(雖有時是省略, 但SC裡, 好像記得以不省略為佳, 而且動詞提前為優, 不是嗎??)
3. 另Behemoth提出的"plan to V 跟plan on Ving 兩者意思上的不同" 我覺得很有趣, 去查了字典, 講到差異如下
a. plan to V 的plan為及物V, plan on Ving的plan為不及物
b. plan on Ving的用法較plan to V口語化
c. plan to V中的plan可為動詞或名詞, 但plan on Ving的plan只可當動詞用
ex: I have made plans to spend my holidays in Hawaii.
(以上為字典說明)

回歸本題, 請大家指正
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文章Calvin » 2005-04-15 22:43

I go for C.

BTW,

plan on doing sth phrasal verb
to intend to do something:
We were planning on just having a snack and catching the early train


and

plan [Show phonetics]
verb -nn-
2 [I or T] to intend to do something or that an event or result should happen:
Our meeting wasn't planned - it was completely accidental.
[+ to infinitive] I'm not planning to stay here much longer.
[+ adverb or preposition] We only planned for six guests, but then someone brought a friend.


seems that there is no difference between plan to V and plan on V-ing.

FYI
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文章Chang,Stella » 2005-04-17 14:04

Calvin \$m[1]:I go for C.

BTW,

plan on doing sth phrasal verb
to intend to do something:
We were planning on just having a snack and catching the early train


and

plan [Show phonetics]
verb -nn-
2 [I or T] to intend to do something or that an event or result should happen:
Our meeting wasn't planned - it was completely accidental.
[+ to infinitive] I'm not planning to stay here much longer.
[+ adverb or preposition] We only planned for six guests, but then someone brought a friend.


seems that there is no difference between plan to V and plan on V-ing.

FYI

Thanks for Calvin's reply. I agree that the meaning seems no different between plan to-v and plan on-ving. But I felt that they must something different on idiom or application which I didn't figure it out.
anyway, back our question, do you mind share ur line of thinking why u choose C?
thanks.
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文章Calvin » 2005-04-17 22:16

To Stella

my reason why I choose C is simple. Idiom--> be likely TO + V.

So I will choose C instead of A.

FYI
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文章Chang,Stella » 2005-04-18 10:15

Calvin \$m[1]:To Stella

my reason why I choose C is simple. Idiom--> be likely TO + V.

So I will choose C instead of A.

FYI


Umm....the grammar makes sense both A and C. Why don't we back to the meaning of the demark sentence.
A. 少數的graduates相較其他(也就是大部份)的graduates多了將近四倍計劃在SD的區域去實習
B. 少數的graduates和其他的graduates一樣近四倍計劃在SD的區域去實習
Pls endure my poor translation above. How do u think which one is make sense about the true meaning that the author try to present?
again, thanks for your reply.
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文章agk99 » 2005-04-18 11:35

Q1:
According to a survey of graduating medical students conducted by the Association of American Medical Colleges, minority graduates are nearly four times more likely than are other graduates in planning to practice in socioeconomically deprived areas.

A. minority graduates are nearly four times more likely than are other graduates in planning to practice
B. minority graduates are nearly four times more likely than other graduates who plan on practicing
C. minority graduates are nearly four times as likely as other graduates to plan on practicing
D. it is nearly four times more likely that minority graduates rather than other graduates will plan to practice
E. it is nearly four times as likely for minority graduates than other graduates to plan to practice

我再看了一次,我覺得我還是選c
理由和其他朋友講的差不多,大致上就是be likely to .....
這是很慣用的搭配

若是講到翻譯,其實"醫學院的研究生比其他學生的四倍還....."和"醫學院的研究生和其他約當學生的四倍" 我覺得都通,換言之這裡是比較級或一般級我認為沒有差,退而求其次,觀察文法使用,我才選C
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文章Chang,Stella » 2005-04-18 14:22

agk99 \$m[1]:Q1:
According to a survey of graduating medical students conducted by the Association of American Medical Colleges, minority graduates are nearly four times more likely than are other graduates in planning to practice in socioeconomically deprived areas.

A. minority graduates are nearly four times more likely than are other graduates in planning to practice
B. minority graduates are nearly four times more likely than other graduates who plan on practicing
C. minority graduates are nearly four times as likely as other graduates to plan on practicing
D. it is nearly four times more likely that minority graduates rather than other graduates will plan to practice
E. it is nearly four times as likely for minority graduates than other graduates to plan to practice

我再看了一次,我覺得我還是選c
理由和其他朋友講的差不多,大致上就是be likely to .....
這是很慣用的搭配

若是講到翻譯,其實"醫學院的研究生比其他學生的四倍還....."和"醫學院的研究生和其他約當學生的四倍" 我覺得都通,換言之這裡是比較級或一般級我認為沒有差,退而求其次,觀察文法使用,我才選C


confusing...confusing....confusing...啊))))))
剛才特地到CD看這題的討論, 沒想到大家也是爭論不休, 不過, 統計一下選C的人居多
其實, 我做這題時, 我一開始只憑句意的理解, 認為作者要表達的不是要as..as, 所以一開始C.就被我排除了, 接著才考慮文法及慣用的部份而選出A
還是謝謝agk回覆!Stella under pondering.....
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文章jfan » 2005-05-05 01:48

這題我選 A。

記得 OG 第五題也有出現時間單位(2,000年?),且選項也有比較級 more... than 及 as... as,結果答案是比較級,所以直覺會覺得 A 的表達方式比較好。另一點就是 plan 的用法,我查的 Collins Cobuild 字典只有 plan to,沒有 plan on,所以當時決定選 A。

提供大家參考。
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文章nicoleliu » 2005-05-15 20:54

jfan \$m[1]:這題我選 A。

記得 OG 第五題也有出現時間單位(2,000年?),且選項也有比較級 more... than 及 as... as,結果答案是比較級,所以直覺會覺得 A 的表達方式比較好另一點就是 plan 的用法,我查的 Collins Cobuild 字典只有 plan to,沒有 plan on,所以當時決定選 A
提供大家參考。


我查longman,plan + to/on 皆可~
[+ on]: We hadn't planned on having so many guests
[plan to do sth]: Josie planned to work until she had saved enough money to go to nursing school.

但這題我也是很confuse...我是選A but也覺得C很平衡~
還有...我想請教各位大大的是~
A選項中有多"are"
than are other graduates in planning to practice
C選項中沒有~
這有差異ㄇ? 還是只是A沒有省略 而C省略了??
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文章Behemoth » 2005-05-15 23:00

a與c的不同點一般認為是c中的are省略了
只要不會造成歧義即可省略

另外補充一下chang.stella
關於以句意來排除選項最好不要一開始就用
因為我們不知道原句想表達的意思是什麼
優先順序放後面一點較好
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文章willy57 » 2005-05-23 23:08

小弟選A
B、C、E一開始就不考慮
原因是plan on是口語英文
一般寫作時plan後面加動作,通常表還沒做是種不確定,所以會用to
這部分可以參考旋老師的修辭高峰會,他有針對to V使用時機作說明
此外莫背背的解題技巧個人很推崇啦
因為上課時老師總說有些是必不選有些是少選
比如being、having不到山窮水盡不選,他沒說絕不選只是你可以先不看去看別的答案,
如果別的答案好就不要考慮有being或having的答案了
我相信莫背背不是每次都對,但九成九會比大部分人的見解好
畢竟他一輩子都在教英文
有空去吃飯時間去美加逛逛,莫背背在幹嘛??
他在背英文單字K英文,不要懷疑,這就是莫背背!!
我知道版上很多神級的大牛,
但我確定我的程度與莫背背別說望塵莫及,我連塵都望不到啊.....
各方大牛的解釋我都會看看,但相爭執又無定論時,我傾向莫背背的意見....
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文章zuckzhc » 2005-06-30 21:31

這題我選A

本來想來看看大家的說法的 , 不過沒想到又是一個爭論題

先說不選C的理由
as..as是一個表示相同的的概念,我想大家都應該同意吧
如此一來它能和前面的副詞nearly"接近地" 一起使用嗎?
這是我用來排除C的一個想法
不知大家意見如何

另外前面有朋友說be likely to-v是idiom
但是likely也有單純當一般的形容詞使用,很多字典都有例句. i.e. a likely excuse. 所以idiom的說法並無法排除A的可能

至於為什麼選A....
因為我覺得他沒什麼錯,所以就選了 :PP
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