[問題]GWD-10-1

[chikm]

我有個小問題，
Ａ選項中minority graduates are nearly four times more likely than ＂are＂ other graduates in planning to practice
那個are 到底是否可以省略？
如果在不影響判讀的情況下是可以省略的嗎？
就像前面有大大提過例句
Ｉam taller than you are.
可以寫成I am taller than you.嗎？

[dibert8]

曾經覺得不能省略,但是參考之後的見解,現在覺得 are 並沒有非要不可的理由.
因此回歸正常文法:時態相同,動詞是應該要省略的.這也是 (A) 的一個瑕疵.
i.e. Ｉam taller than you are. = I am taller than you. (很好的例子,感謝提醒!)

[chikm]

感謝～
沒錯，我剛才去查証的結果也的確是可以省略沒有非要不可的理由。
這麼一來Ｂ跟Ｃ其實文法上都沒有什麼錯，
但卻都改變句意，且使用plan on(口語用法）
所以比較起來也許Ａ還是較好的選擇。

曾經覺得不能省略,但是參考之後的見解,現在覺得 are 並沒有非要不可的理由.
因此回歸正常文法:時態相同,動詞是應該要省略的.這也是 (A) 的一個瑕疵.
i.e. Ｉam taller than you are. = I am taller than you. (很好的例子,感謝提醒!)

[dibert8]

這題的另一個爭議在修飾.
其實 (A) in planning 的修飾位置是正確的
minority graduates are {nearly four times more likely than are other graduates} in planning to practice in socioeconomically deprived areas
{...} 的詞性主軸就是 likely, 其它都是修飾(調味料),這樣很清楚地看到 be likely to 的慣用片語. in planning 夾在裡面,讓它必須修飾 likely
i.e. 主要文法結構為: minority graduates are likely {in planning} to practice ...
不過句意似乎不太合理:'根據調查, minority graduates 比較可能在計畫(的狀態)去社經貧乏地區執業'
(C) 用 to plan 表示預期的動作.句意蠻正常.
歸納來說, (A) (C) 爭議,可能要轉移到 'in planning' vs 'to plan' 在句意上的合理性.

[bibbyshiu]

老莫的說法, "比較級後面加上than之後的名詞"需要明確指出是主格或是受格.
不過, 我昨天有問老莫 "老師, 可是你之前說過, You are taller than I (am tall). 難道就沒有I分辨不清的問題嗎?"
老莫: "I是代名詞啊, 代名詞沒有格, 沒有主格受格的問題, 所以are可以省略". 最後再補了一句, "同學, 這是很基本滴"

又as...as之後的用法與-er..than相同
所以(C)個人覺得少了明辨主格受格..傾向選(A)

[dibert8]

(A) minority graduates are nearly four times more likely than are other graduates in planning to practice
沒有受詞啊!
在主要子句只有主詞 (minority graduates) 的時候,也只能和主詞比較了,所以 other graduates 唯一的比較對象就是 minority graduates. 這樣省略動詞不會造成比較歧異.

You are taller than I (am).
I 是主格 (vs 受格 me, 所有格 my); 莫伯伯的意思是不是比較時用主格,所以沒有格的問題?
同樣,動詞省略因為主要子句 (You are taller) 沒有受詞, I 一定是和主詞 (You) 比較.

[auguding]

不知歷時那麼久的爭論~究竟是A還是C呢~
投A一票!!

[bibbyshiu]

過了幾個月..發現我的想法有點變了...以前選(A), 現在改選(C).
理由1.
倍數詞 + as ... as...慣用句型

理由2.
前句只有主詞+形容詞. 後句只需要出現主詞, 不需要出現動詞.

此外, (A)的in planning形容了other graduates. 使得句意不正確, minority跟other in plainning去比.
(C)的to plan是副詞, 修飾動詞 minority graduates are likely to plan than other graduates are likely to plan

[auguding]

想請問~如果要說A正確的話
那麼他既然不把BE V省略~也就是加上了ARE
但是卻把LIKELY省略了
是否應該把握~要保留都保留~要省都省的一致原則才對呢?
但C中的plan on這個用法，真的是從來沒看過
雖然有大大找出原文~但ETS也可能根據原文改成錯誤答案嗎?!

這題還是沒個定論~

[auguding]

Anybody has further idea?~~~

[Victor800]

Q1:
According to a survey of graduating medical students conducted by the Association of American Medical Colleges, minority graduates are nearly four times more likely than are other graduates in planning to practice in socioeconomically deprived areas.

A. minority graduates are nearly four times more likely than are other graduates in planning to practice
B. minority graduates are nearly four times more likely than other graduates who plan on practicing
C. minority graduates are nearly four times as likely as other graduates to plan on practicing
D. it is nearly four times more likely that minority graduates rather than other graduates will plan to practice
E. it is nearly four times as likely for minority graduates than other graduates to plan to practice

這一題從NOV.07 討論到 NOV.07
大家真的很認真
我也來投C一票好了
老莫說過--倍數+as _ as是idomatic
如果他不選C的話算是自打嘴巴嗎~呵呵
現在正好在美加補AT可以去問問他~

[puja]

Q1:
According to a survey of graduating medical students conducted by the Association of American Medical Colleges, minority graduates are nearly four times more likely than are other graduates in planning to practice in socioeconomically deprived areas.

A. minority graduates are nearly four times more likely than are other graduates in planning to practice
B. minority graduates are nearly four times more likely than other graduates who plan on practicing
C. minority graduates are nearly four times as likely as other graduates to plan on practicing
D. it is nearly four times more likely that minority graduates rather than other graduates will plan to practice
E. it is nearly four times as likely for minority graduates than other graduates to plan to practice

這一題從NOV.07 討論到 NOV.07
大家真的很認真
我也來投C一票好了
老莫說過--倍數+as _ as是idomatic
如果他不選C的話算是自打嘴巴嗎~呵呵
現在正好在美加補AT可以去問問他~

這是我從網站查選出來的文章:
A black woman was nearly four times as likely as a white woman to die during pregnancy or within one year (22.9 and 6.3 deaths per 100,000 live births, respectively)

People who receive a kidney transplant are nearly four times more likely to develop melanoma

我想這題的重點應該還是放在 be likely to 的句意問題上
開始我投A~~但現在我投C一票!

[Huang Hsin-Yi]

A 不好是因為不符合, A more likely than B to V的原則

FROM GOOGLE-
1.Women are 10 times more likely than men to be victimized by an intimate

2. IT staff are twice as likely as other staff members to wear a heavy metal T-shirt and carry a Maglite and a Leatherman


對照一下
A. minority graduates are nearly four times more likely than are other graduates in planning to practice

C. minority graduates are nearly four times as likely as other graduates to plan on practicing

[ad264]

這一題外國的討論區也很熱烈，據說是紙筆時代的題目，官方答案C。

整理一下:
A 錯三個地方
1. be likely to V 非 be likely in Ving
2. plan on Ving 非 plan in Ving
3. 不可有are，這一點好幾個都這樣說，這一點的原因我倒是不懂。

B
1.句意變成跟「其他計畫練習的」學生，原本只是指other graduates



D
1. 沒有more ....rather than的說法
2. will plan 時態突然變成未來

E
1. 不可說as ....than

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[mediayouth]

嗯!! 贊成 ad246 的說法
感覺 (A) 有 are 就變成: minority graduates are nearly four times likely than other graduates in planning to practice ... are (還原成原本的由新到舊). are 的存在讓整個句子看起來超怪!!