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[問題]SSC885-補充題-1 NO.11=>and

文章訪客 » 2004-08-31 22:34

11. The growth of the railroads led to the abolition of local times, which was determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differing from city to city, and to the establishment of regional times.
(A) which was determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differing
(B) which was determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and which differed
(C) which were determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differing
(D) determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differed
(E) determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differing


Ichoose B but the correct answer is E.
by when~ and differing~=>right?
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文章QQcandy » 2004-09-01 01:09

I choose (B)
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文章agk99 » 2004-09-01 02:18

記住,非必要時 名詞一, 介系詞, 名詞二, which是不選的
因為指代不清

但我雖然刪了ABC,但DE可選不出
有同學可以指點一下嗎
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文章illuna » 2004-09-01 10:03

agk99 \$m[1]:記住,非必要時 名詞一, 介系詞, 名詞二, which是不選的
因為指代不清

但我雖然刪了ABC,但DE可選不出
有同學可以指點一下嗎


關代真是很麻煩啊.....我想請教一下agk大哥.....which只不過是省略而已還是不是造成ambiguity??並不是說省略which該動作就很清楚指明是修飾哪個名詞的呀?

我翻了一下老莫的筆記....他是寫N1介N2...that通常指代N2....which通常指代N1.....造成ambiguity......然後下面寫但是根據句意....形容詞子句絕大部分修飾N1.....

所以我覺得很大部分卡在句意問題......像bear那題OG163也是......唉唉.....

至於DE我覺得the abolition of local times differ from city to city很順啊...沒有必要用被動....所以應該是選Ving表示主動......

至於determine用Vpp表示被動兩個應該不衝突吧.....?

個人意見請指教.....
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文章 » 2004-09-01 21:20

我選D耶....
想一下 ,再來
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文章agk99 » 2004-09-01 23:50

to Illuna,
which 不用在這,就是因為可以代n1, 也可以代n2
但若是改成分詞,可以講就是前面子句引導出(主動),或被引導出(被動)該分詞的動作
回到which來說,就句意來看,當然可以講說是代n1還是n2,但問題是ETS 的習慣就是討厭這樣,所以類似情況請留意以分詞處理為妙。

至於為何選E
我想這又牽涉到平衡的最基本精神,句意 >硬梆梆,也就是實質平衡更勝型式平衡

這兩個分詞determined and differing都是分詞,扮演形容詞的角色,但動作都是由abolition而來,也因此形容詞對形容詞,平衡沒有問題

請參照OG210
Scientists have recently discovered what could be the largest and oldest living organism on Earth, a giant fungus that is an interwoven filigree of mushrooms and rootlike tentacles spawned by a single fertilized spore some 10,000 years ago and extending for more than 30 acres in the soil of a Michigan forest.

(A) extending
(B) extends
(C) extended
(D) it extended
(E) is extending

記得這題機車題吧,第一次做OG時,我到現在還記得很不爽的感覺,但沒辦法,句意才是王道,硬梆梆不過是普通原則而己
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文章 » 2004-09-02 02:06

agk99 \$m[1]:

這兩個分詞determined and differing都是分詞,扮演形容詞的角色,但動作都是由abolition而來
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agk 大哥 , 妳這話是啥意思 , 把我搞混了 :'(

我想了一個晚上 ,還是不理解,為啥大家都不會搞混 把the sun 當成differed 的主詞 ?? 我就是因為醬子選了 D 的 :-@
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文章agk99 » 2004-09-02 02:20

我也不能確定我是不是對,而且坦白說,如果沒有OG210給我信心,要我選E是很心虛的,因為我擺不平by when該如何解釋
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文章agk99 » 2004-09-02 02:29

sorry
仔細斟酌了一番,determined 及differing的動作,該是 local times 發出才是
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文章illuna » 2004-09-02 12:28

我試著推一次結構看看...大家討論討論......

首先畫線部分拆開來看也是一個說明的手法...原句
and平衡to the abolition of local times和to the establishment of regional times.

The growth of the railroads led to the abolition of local times

, which was determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differing from city to city ,

and to the establishment of regional times.

從句意(我覺得是翻譯啦)看得出來的確兩個逗號之間的形容詞子句是在修飾local times
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illuna \$m[1]:我試著推一次結構看看...大家討論討論......

首先畫線部分拆開來看也是一個說明的手法...原句
and平衡to the abolition of local times和to the establishment of regional times.

The growth of the railroads led to the abolition of local times

, which was determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differing from city to city ,

and to the establishment of regional times.

從句意(我覺得是翻譯啦)看得出來的確兩個逗號之間的形容詞子句是在修飾local times



I totally agree with yours. (ff) (ff)
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文章Behemoth » 2004-09-16 12:03

小弟不才...
怎覺得動作發起者是The growth of the railroads 呢?

著眼點在於local times怎會differing from city to city...??

所以我認為是鐵路的成長....
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Behemoth \$m[1]:小弟不才...
怎覺得動作發起者是The growth of the railroads 呢?

著眼點在於local times怎會differing from city to city...??

所以我認為是鐵路的成長....



著眼點在於local times怎會differing from city to city...?? :| 這不就是時區的觀念嗎?
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文章訪客 » 2004-09-16 22:45

魚 \$m[1]:
Behemoth \$m[1]:小弟不才...
怎覺得動作發起者是The growth of the railroads 呢?

著眼點在於local times怎會differing from city to city...??

所以我認為是鐵路的成長....



著眼點在於local times怎會differing from city to city...?? :| 這不就是時區的觀念嗎?


I agree with fish 8-|
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文章Behemoth » 2004-09-16 23:05

是,小弟立即改進

太嫩了..

最近腦袋不知道在想什麼....
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