[問題]請問比較時，如果前後主辭相同，後面之主辭可否省略？

[vegoblack]

之前有討論，比較中如果主、動辭一致，則後面之主辭可以省略，
不過以下這三題之原則似乎不太一樣。
想請教各位大大怎樣判斷？

1-Q16:
Soaring television costs accounted for more than half the spending in the presidential campaign of 1992, a greater proportion than it was in any previous election.
A. a greater proportion than it was
B. a greater proportion than
C. a greater proportion than they have been
D. which is greater than was so
E. which is greater than it has been
答案為B，省略than it had been(不懂為何可以省略，因為動詞為過去完成，時態不一致，可以省略嗎？)

1-Q32:
To develop more accurate population forecasts, demographers have to know a great deal more than now about the social and economic determinants of fertility.
A. have to know a great deal more than now about the social and economic
B. have to know a great deal more than they do now about the social and economical
C. would have to know a great deal more than they do now about the social and economical
D. would have to know a great deal more than they do now about the social and economic
E. would have to know a great deal more than now about the social and economical
答案為D，這題之more than they do now不可以省略，
問題：如果比照Q16題，則Q32題之A答案部是也可行嗎？

12-Q30:According to public health officials, in 1998 Massachusetts became the first state in which more babies were born to women over the age of thirty than under it.
A.than
B.than born
C.than they were
D.than there had been
E.than had been born
答案為A，一樣想問，如果這題答案為A(可省略babies were born to women)那
Q1-32答案中的A為何不能省略呢？

[ivanchiang]

vegoblack妹妹妳好~妳剛剛題目忘記畫底線
看起來會讓人霧煞煞
我已經私自幫妳加嚕~

[ivanchiang]

之前有討論，比較中如果主、動辭一致，則後面之主辭可以省略，
不過以下這三題之原則似乎不太一樣。
想請教各位大大怎樣判斷？

恩...我不大有印象是不是這樣
動詞一定要一致嗎?
我肯定要主詞一致時才可以省略，這種題目層出不窮
可是動詞...好像遇到許多題目動詞並非是一致的

這種題目似乎一直是大家心頭大患
我剛開始唸AT時遇到這各也是幾乎全掛~現在好多了

我覺得是要看比較對象耶~

1-Q16:
Soaring television costs accounted for more than half the spending in the presidential campaign of 1992, a greater proportion than it was in any previous election.

Ans:(B) a greater proportion than

比較的應該是in the presidential campaign 這個事，後面自然只要補出in any previous election就好~

1-Q32:
To develop more accurate population forecasts, demographers have to know a great deal more than now about the social and economic determinants of fertility.

Ans:(D) would have to know a great deal more than they do now about the social and economic

比較的是know a great deal，是個動作，自然後面也要"補出動作do"

12-Q30:According to public health officials, in 1998 Massachusetts became the first state in which more babies were born to women over the age of thirty than under it.

Ans:(A)than

比較的是over the age of thirty ，是個狀態，自然後面也只補出狀態"under it"就OK

這是我個人小小的看法~我做這類題目大部分都是這樣看的

[Pufa]

我的想法：
比較同一類（比如說都是babies）但不同型態（不同年紀女人生的babies）的名詞時，
因為名詞部分多半重複，所以可以把重複的名詞省略掉，
剩下要比較的修飾語即可。

比較動作時，像know a great deal more than (they do) now，
如果把括號的部分省略，那不就是把要比較的重點省略光光了嗎？
所以在比較動作的程度時，要補出主詞動詞。

Soaring television costs accounted for more than half the spending in the presidential campaign of 1992, a greater proportion than (it had been) in any previous election.

這裡比較的是『選舉費佔花費的比率』。
A選項前面都對了，不過後面的than it was錯了，應該為it had been。
然而在這裡it had been是可以省略的，因為沒有任何歧意。

To develop more accurate population forecasts, demographers would have to know a great deal more than they do now about the social and economic determinants of fertility.

舉全部的腳毛贊同ivan的說法，比較動作要補出動詞。

According to public health officials, in 1998 Massachusetts became the first state in which more babies were born to women over the age of thirty than (babies were born to women) under it.

這題跟第一題類似。比較名詞的時候可以把重複的部分省略。

[maronchen1103]

同意同意∼∼∼
這種句型可以省略的部分為主詞動詞
若比較對象為主詞或動詞時當然不可省略
但若比較對象為主詞補語時....前面一樣的部分即可省略

答題重點重點還是在理解比較對象
這樣的說法對嗎？？？

[vegoblack]

感謝各位大哥們詳盡的解答，
小妹似乎了解了，終點是在於比較的對象要平衡，否則就不知道要比什麼了。

Gwd 5-14

Q14:

Even though more money was removed out of stock funds in July as in any month since October 1987, sales of fund shares in July were not as low as an industry trade group had previously estimated.

as in any month since October 1987, sales of fund shares in July were not as low as
as had been in any other month since October 1987, sales of fund shares in July were not as low as what
than there was in any other month since October 1987, sales of fund shares in July were not as low as that which
than in any month since October 1987, sales of fund shares in July were not as low as
than in any other month since October 1987, sales of fund shares in July were not as low as what

答案是E

跟大家分享一下，剛剛發現到的~
more money was removed out of stock funds in July than (more money was removed out of stocks funds)in any other month
這裡要比較的為時間，
既然要比較的為時間，則前面一樣東西就可以省略

sales of fund shares on July were not as low as what an industry trade group had previously estimated.
這裡要用what 是因為，要比較的東西就是sales of fund shares...
在這裡，要比較的東西既然是主詞，所以不能省略。

請問各位大師，是這樣子的嗎？

[yuying]

Soaring television costs accounted for more than half the spending in the presidential campaign of 1992, a greater proportion than (it had been) in any previous election.

這裡比較的是『選舉費佔花費的比率』。
A選項前面都對了，不過後面的than it was錯了，應該為it had been。
然而在這裡it had been是可以省略的，因為沒有任何歧意。

這題我對於B沒有問題,
但是關於Pufa GG的解釋, 我有些疑問:
1. it 可以代替a greater proportion 嗎? 還是可以直接說是 a
proportion? 這種名詞類的比較, 用it是否有歧義?

2. 時態一定要用had been嗎? had been是否比較適用在前後動作時,
前用過去完成, 後用完成式呢? 如果是兩個過去事實的比較, 用was
是可以被接受? 大全Section 01-23 就是前後兩個過去事實比較用was
OG80, 108, 198解釋都是說在某一個action之前

3. 如果將A 補出be動詞be或had been還原為:
an greater proportion (was in the presidential campaign of
1992) than a proportion was(had been) in any previous
campaign 這樣看來句子是否awkard, 改成這樣似乎比較順:
an proportion in the presidential campaign of 1992 was
greater than that in any previous compaign
似乎was/had been反而造成前後比較awkard

我是覺得it was 補出問題很多, 在這一題最好省略

還請Pufa或其他同學指教 謝謝

[davidlee0222]

Soaring television costs accounted for more than half the spending in the presidential campaign of 1992, a greater proportion than (it had been) in any previous election.

這裡比較的是『選舉費佔花費的比率』。
A選項前面都對了，不過後面的than it was錯了，應該為it had been。
然而在這裡it had been是可以省略的，因為沒有任何歧意。
[quote]

應該就是歐姬裡講的"大夥皆知"(印象裡是which is understood)
感謝ivan跟pufa的分享
小弟嘗試小結..有誤請糾正
比名詞/狀態/時間時後者若大夥皆知者可省
比動詞需重複

正在總結第十一板
搞定後跟各位分享

[yuying]

感謝各位大哥們詳盡的解答，
小妹似乎了解了，終點是在於比較的對象要平衡，否則就不知道要比什麼了。

Gwd 5-14

Q14:

Even though more money was removed out of stock funds in July as in any month since October 1987, sales of fund shares in July were not as low as an industry trade group had previously estimated.

as in any month since October 1987, sales of fund shares in July were not as low as
as had been in any other month since October 1987, sales of fund shares in July were not as low as what
than there was in any other month since October 1987, sales of fund shares in July were not as low as that which
than in any month since October 1987, sales of fund shares in July were not as low as
than in any other month since October 1987, sales of fund shares in July were not as low as what

答案是E

跟大家分享一下，剛剛發現到的~
more money was removed out of stock funds in July than ( more money was removed out of stocks funds)in any other month
這裡要比較的為時間，
既然要比較的為時間，則前面一樣東西就可以省略

yuying: 一個小小細節, 補出的部分應是原級money, 不是more money

sales of fund shares on July were not as low as what an industry trade group had previously estimated.
這裡要用what 是因為，要比較的東西就是sales of fund shares...
在這裡，要比較的東西既然是主詞，所以不能省略。

yuying: 我也不知道為什麼要用what, 如果可以我想把它去掉, 這題是因為in any other month 所以不得不選這個答案吧...
as...as/more than...thought/expected/estimated等應都是固定用法
我上個月考G, 就出現這兩個答案
(A) Ved...than experts had expected
(B) Ved..than what experts expected
考試時我是選了(A) 心想ETS真是...不過好險還有had expected這個選項

[dennis_wtliu]

不好意思想請問各位前輩
OG10-149的 正確答案
(D) as fast as, and in some parts even faster than, those
如果在those的後面是否補個 "did" 是否會更好???

謝謝大家

[dennis_wtliu]

昨天來不及打題目 不好意思
原題是
Last year, land values in most parts of the pinelands rose almost (so fast. and in some parts even faster than what they did) outside the pinelands.

(D) as fast as, and in some parts even faster than, those

ps刮弧部份為畫線區

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