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文章whoops » 2007-06-26 23:55

dibert8 \$m[1]:是的.
不過 speeds 一個在前面,另一個要放在 than 後面
... than are (speeds) currently possible


想再請教dibert8
speeds置於are後是如何變化而來?

而這樣的還原是否有錯誤?
..at speeds (which are) much higher than (speeds which) are currently possible.
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文章nomade » 2007-08-25 18:58

推whoops的疑問
我也做成以上的還原

不過我的還原後面覺得如果(speeds which)省略, 那麼為什麼不能連are一起省掉呢?
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文章dibert8 » 2007-08-27 09:15

whoops \$m[1]:想再請教dibert8
speeds置於are後是如何變化而來?

而這樣的還原是否有錯誤?
..at speeds (which are) much higher than (speeds which) are currently possible.


我想這樣是沒有問題的.
speeds 置於 are 後是倒裝 (optioanl, i.e. 不倒裝也可,沒有強制的規則)
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文章dibert8 » 2007-08-27 09:31

nomade \$m[1]:推whoops的疑問
我也做成以上的還原

不過我的還原後面覺得如果(speeds which)省略, 那麼為什麼不能連are一起省掉呢?


覺得這一題的句子蠻不按牌理.原因在句子有主詞 (alliance) ,受詞 (computer companies, telephone companies, data, telephone lines, speeds) 如果沒有明寫出 speeds ,其實還不易知道在和哪個比較. are 不能省略的原因在於時態.
這一題顯然是刻意設計的考題.等到做題者一個一個名詞地推到合理的比較對象時,已經花掉不少時間了.
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文章小花 » 2007-09-21 12:04

According to analysts, an alliance between three major personal computer companies and most of the nation’s largest local telephone companies would enable customers to receive Internet data over regular telephone lines with speeds much higher than is currently possible.
A. with speeds much higher than is
B. with speeds that are much higher than are
C. at much higher speeds as are
D. at much higher speeds than that
E. at speeds much higher than are

這題我也想了很久
後來有點想通
但不知對不對
根據題目的意思
應該是 未來可能提供的速度 和現在能提供的速度比
從原題給的選項 than is 推判

這題是比較子句與主句時態不一致,即兩比較對象是相同的,但其發生的時間不一致或同一事物的相同動作發生的時間不同

ex1. I eat more food than he dose.
ex2.The economy of Florida is more diversified than it was ten
years ago.
詳細可參考白勇語法 P188

個人淺見 大家可以再一起研究討論 *-)
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文章alisonc » 2007-10-11 01:19

如果不考慮時態問題
eg: 現在的速度比可能(可行)的速度快/慢

是不是就可以寫成

at speeds much higher than possible ?

就像 ~ than usual
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文章Kal-El » 2007-10-16 22:56

at speeds much higher than possible

~ok
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文章YH32480 » 2007-11-16 02:20

各位大大
1. 答案不可能是A or B,因為
SPEED 有兩種意思,意思不同介係詞的用法則不同
1. N.【U】迅速 (+with) 例: move with great speed (不加冠詞因不可數)
2. N.【C】速度 (+at) 例: move at a speed of 50 km/hr (可數)

 此題因為比較,又可數,必為"速度"的解釋,所以不可能用with做介係詞

2. 我覺得還原(E)的話應該是:
at speeds (that are) much higher than (speeds) are currently possible.
因為 more ... than... 句型 比較要對等,所以對等兩邊是 speeds,而前後相同可省略,所以後者的speeds被省略掉了

請各位指教 =)
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文章Kal-El » 2007-11-16 02:56

A: ~with speeds (that are) much higher than(it)is currently possible.
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文章YH32480 » 2007-11-16 17:59

Kal-El \$m[1]:at speeds (that are) much higher than (speeds that) are currently possible.
Q1: 這個還原?
Q2: 把比較的東東省了???


比較的主要名詞重複應可省略

參考考古題: FORM 19 #13
According to a government study, the lush swamps and marshes of the Mississippi delta, among the finest wetlands in the world, are vanishing at a rate of 39 square miles a year, as fast as two and a falf times the rate that was previously thought.
(A) as fast as two and a half times the rate that was
(B) two and a half times as fast as it had been
(C) two and a half times faster than
(D) a rate two and a half times as fast as
(E) which is a rate two and a half times faster than had been
答案為 (C)


此句不但省略了名詞,連動詞重複都省略了
還原變為→ at a rate (which is) two and a half times faster than (the rate was) previously thought
句型與GWD 21-1完全一樣!!

請指教!:)
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文章Kal-El » 2007-11-17 10:19

mm~^_^: 這是不一樣的~拍謝!

而這還原"勉強"可說是
a rate is two and a half times faster than (it is) previously thought. (莫老師說的)
it意表前句....當然是不合法的
因為這是一個慣用法~以上的還原只是為了幫助理解而已

謝~
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文章YH32480 » 2007-11-17 16:34

Kal-El \$m[1]:而這還原"勉強"可說是
a rate is two and a half times faster than (it is) previously thought. (莫老師說的)


我對莫老師的說法有些問題耶~
1. previously thought是過去式...為何用it "is" (現在簡單式)?
2. 若是用 it , 那 faster than 前後如何 (所謂的)"硬梆梆"比較呢? ^o)
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文章dibert8 » 2007-11-18 02:16

這些題目莫伯伯可能都已經做爛了,而 ETS 很狡猾,不小心搬錯了解釋也不無可能.
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文章Kal-El » 2007-11-29 23:10

支持A
~with speeds(that are)much higher than(it)is currently possible.
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文章angela_yj0424 » 2008-07-04 01:30

at speeds---A.B錯-C比較級少than-D.E決選-比的是speeds,所以D後應該是those, D排除-E at speeds (which are) much higher than (speeds) are currently possible
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