[分享]台灣人於美國牛校入學人數之統計.

[davidlee0222]

good to see diverse opinions
different opinion won't affect friendship
while respecting each other is a must
americans do a good job at this aspect

[davidlee0222]

guess everybody has a right to express opinion
and everybody can choose whether to see or not
it might only effect adversely to stop others

[reohuang]

cool down~

希望大家都可以盡力申請也拿到自己理想適合學校的admission~
不管是用哪一種選擇學校的方式都值得尊重啦~
畢竟之後會是好的壞的也都是自己選擇的...不是嗎？

[adif]

relax~~
mbaboy大想表達的應該不是把排名納入考量的人都是沒有獨特見解的...
而是上牛校的人不全都是想像中的高不可攀
我們應當著重汲取前輩在過程中的珍貴體會 無論他是上M7或者TOP50
而不是一上牛校就拿來當神拜的結果論

這討論串每個人的意見都給了我好好反省的機會
謝謝大家的不吝分享~

[小茉莉]

I think an equally important point is that you must have relevant pre-MBA experience to get into IB.

Even if you attend a top school, but have no relevant work experience, the switch will be nearly impossible.

Some key factors:

--prestige of your undergrad (for Taiwanese students who did undergrad in Taiwan this would be "0")

--prestige of your pre-MBA employer

--pre-MBA work experience

我同意工作經驗是最重要的因素
top school 只是增加你進入IB的機會
我也上不了top school 所以來鼓勵其他也進不了top school的朋友
某著名IB台灣分公司 去年高薪聘用一個VP
他沒有top MBA 而且還是 Local MBA 也沒有其他IB W/E
但他有非常優異的工作能力 做了幾個好案子
我想這是最佳進入IB模式 省去當associate被折磨的日子 直接做VP!!
我想所有成就的表現都是反映你過去的努力
所以 歷史不能改變 那就努力去造就 你未來的歷史吧

[csc]

看了本篇討論，突然明白"家和萬事興"及"歡喜就好"
愛你所選，選你所愛，如果你喜歡，你可以做一個自己的排行榜，把你要的
學校變成你的牛校，這樣就好啦，大家都唸牛校，沒分大小啦

只要是你要的，就是你心中的哈佛、華頓、凱特洛、哥倫比亞、達特茅斯、
NYU...........

突然又想起一個對話

應徵者：你在哪裡
牛校：我在你心裡

[davidlee0222]

C老哥可以去當廣告創意了
這種對話都想的出來...真有你的

[polarbear]

To 小茉莉:
是MS嗎??

[knobhill18]

在這忍不住想抱怨一下
假如有冒犯,還請見諒
認識得朋友裡有一個上了哥大
AT 640
工作經驗快二年(在老爸公司裡)
國立大學經濟系 gpa不知
只上一家哥大
不過經過朋友哥哥也在哥大明查暗訪經決他老爸公司資本額達三億
而這極可能是他上得原因
畢竟他不可能失業,在未來一定是老爸公司的ceo ,top manager , or president
對學校而言是個雙贏
只是感嘆那些真正厲害 at 700 托福280 W/E 五年 的強者想上哥大上不了
一年只收那區區二三個,又被占調一個位子
這可能就是為何小布希是個"C" student 確能上名校mba一樣的道理
權勢跟金錢像是二把要鑰匙,可以為你打通關節開啟機會大門
but waht happen to the american spirit "may the best man win"
I guess as long as there are rules, there will be exceptions

[adif]

同意k兄說法
小弟也認識一些此類背景朋友
從人脈拓展以及就業率來說 學校收他們的確是穩贏的策略
不過這只是牛校學生的一小部份而已

[knobhill18]

adif大說的沒錯
的確是穩贏,學校簡介就可以加上xxx是啥上市公司董事長之類的,或是average salary 平均拉高,畢竟自己家有公司薪水應該是百萬起跳吧
不過不說這摸多了,這只是一小部分
而且他還是我朋友,希望沒得罪他,以後搞不好還要去他家公司上班...哈哈哈(苦笑中)

[sophiechen]

knobhill

你說的是美金三億吧
如果台幣的話就沒什麼呀

[knobhill18]

我不知道是美金還是台幣歐
問問看

[MBABoy]

我不知道是美金還是台幣歐
問問看

Let me divide this issue into two parts:

1. If this company does not go public lisiting, then its capital is impossible to be US$300 million= NT$10 billion. So, in this case, he could be CEO one day since this is a private-owned company with capital NT$300 million and major shareholders would be family members. They can do whatever they want.

2. If this company is public-listed, then its capital could be US$300 million. Yet, here comes a question. Where is the corprate governance? If a public-listed company could nominate a person to succeed the CEO position just becasue his father is the CEO and Columbia buy this story, then I have to say, business school is just a BS.

Although this is common in Taiwan that owners of the companies are always the management levels. Yet in the US, these should be seperated. The management levels and the boards should be responsible for the shareholders. If Columbia's admission to this person is just because his father's CEO position of a listed company, then the corporate governance is neglected and the persuasion of business paramount mission is Zero.

[allwen99]

For 2005(Class of 2007), Duke only has 1 Taiwanese. For 2004 (Class of 2006), the same. For 2003(Class of 2005), the same, only 1. For 2002, the same.


Class of 2005 graduated last year and he went to McKinsey.
Class of 2004 went to Johnson & Johnson.