關於留在美國工作.

[MBABoy]

身為國際學生,我們沒有身分,很多公司都直接說不收沒身分的學生.想請問已經在美國找過工作的前輩,公司幫學生辦身份很困難嗎?是卡在程序很複雜還是要花費為數不少的手續費?感謝解答.

[MarkHsu]

Depends on the company:

For small companies, it could be a money issue.

For larger companies, it could be just an administrative hassel.

And for other companies (such as those in the Midwest), it could be that either they are 1) unfamiliar with the process of sponsoring a H-1B 2)don't have a large pool of international professionals to draw from in the first place 3) a values issue--want to just hire Americans, drive American cars, blah, etc.

[cmuturtle]

Depends on the company:

For small companies, it could be a money issue.

For larger companies, it could be just an administrative hassel.

And for other companies (such as those in the Midwest), it could be that either they are 1) unfamiliar with the process of sponsoring a H-1B 2)don't have a large pool of international professionals to draw from in the first place 3) a values issue--want to just hire Americans, drive American cars, blah, etc.

此言甚是，辦H1需要約一千多美金，同時需要符合登報六月乏人問津等定。當然有很多方法可以規避這些規定。可是只要公司裏的HR是Ass Hole，該公司就不會有外籍工作者。而這些公司也不會擁有不同文化所激盪出的創意。

[MBABoy]

這樣我了解了,感謝MarkHsu以及cmuturtle的解釋;另外想請問cmuturtle,登報六月乏人問津是什麼意思?公司在幫國際學生辦H-1B還有其他很窒礙難行的要求要達到嘛?非常感謝你~

Depends on the company:

For small companies, it could be a money issue.

For larger companies, it could be just an administrative hassel.

And for other companies (such as those in the Midwest), it could be that either they are 1) unfamiliar with the process of sponsoring a H-1B 2)don't have a large pool of international professionals to draw from in the first place 3) a values issue--want to just hire Americans, drive American cars, blah, etc.

此言甚是，辦H1需要約一千多美金，同時需要符合登報六月乏人問津等定。當然有很多方法可以規避這些規定。可是只要公司裏的HR是Ass Hole，該公司就不會有外籍工作者。而這些公司也不會擁有不同文化所激盪出的創意。

[MarkHsu]

one of the criteria of obtaining an H-1B is demonstrating to the INS (Immigration Naturalization Service) that there's a need that an American cannot fill. One way to prove this is that the company must continuously advertise the vacancy and prove that no qualified US citizen applied. This explains why it is easier for an international with a clear technical skill to gain approval as opposed to a "fuzzier" function, such as marketing or sales.

[MBABoy]

one of the criteria of obtaining an H-1B is demonstrating to the INS (Immigration Naturalization Service) that there's a need that an American cannot fill. One way to prove this is that the company must continuously advertise the vacancy and prove that no qualified US citizen applied. This explains why it is easier for an international with a clear technical skill to gain approval as opposed to a "fuzzier" function, such as marketing or sales.

I see. 原來美國人這麼保護自己的人,還globalization勒,真是又見識到說一套做一套想又另一套的精髓了.台灣實在要多學學美國日本,這麼保護自己國民,對移民都很苛刻,好像外來的人就不是人一樣.

[MarkHsu]

What gave you the impression that America is very globalized? You're watching a bit too much Hollywood. = )

If you want to get a taste of globalization, go to Europe, Singapore, HK, etc. America is definitely very US-centric.

For example, if you go the Midwest, few Americans drive import cars.

[流浪水手]

MarkHsu is right. It happened several times that when I shopped at a supermarket, an Ameracan baby stared at me as if he/she never saw an Asian! In addition, u will be impressed with the amount of Japenese cars here in Michigan, but most of the drivers are Asians as oppesed to Americans.

[MBABoy]

再次感謝MarkHsu跟流浪水手的分享,我可能真的對美國有不太正確的印象了,去美國好好體驗一下"自以為是大熔爐"的文化好了~~

[Chinghaowu]

除之之外，公司每雇用一個外國人，就要交一筆錢給美國政府
用途是提供失業的美國人的就業訓練
道理是說每雇用一個外國人，就代表有一個美國人失業，而他會失業是因為缺乏技能，所以雇用外國人的這個美國公司應該要出錢補貼這些失業美國人的訓練費用

本來覺得這個法令很荒繆
後來發現台灣有條一模一樣的法令…

[Pudding]

我想從另一個角度想, 政府保護國民工作也是應該的. 我想不止美國台灣, 各國應該都有類似 "換湯不換葯" 的法令吧... 可是如果求職者本身夠competitive, 照樣有敲鑼打鼓號稱死也不收international students的公司靜悄悄sponsor 了 H-1B.

從學校聽來的一句話: "This company doesn't hire international until it does." 真的是事在人為吧我想...

[knobhill18]

說真的
國際學生技術背景要夠硬(執照之類的) 英文要夠好 (不用跟老美比但是至少要跟國際學生差不多) 公司才會對你有興趣, 不然就是公司開出薪水低希望來個廉價勞工,老美不做國際學生才有機會

[stellaadixen]

請問如果想在歐洲工作.情況會比較好一點嗎?