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文章henrysung » 2008-02-07 00:51

Hello everyone,

My name is Henry, the prospective student for MBA class 2010, 27 years old with almost 6 years W/E, GMAT 690 and TOEFL 101. I was a reporter and now I am an assistant marketing manager. My future career path will be focused on corporate general management, not finance, not consulting.

I would love to have your advices on my school choosing. I am admitted by IESE and Georgetown. It is a hard decision for me to choose the right school between IESE Business school (Spain, ranked #11 globally & #5 in Europe by Financial Times.) & Georgetown McDonough Business School (US, ranked #38 globally & #19 in US by Financial Times.)

I took all of my efforts to apply both of them and now I suffer to give up anyone. I love to study in US but I can't ignore the future niche strength if I study in the prestigious Spanish bilingual MBA, on the other hand, I believe the fact of location is everything so that studying in US, in DC, will help me to broaden my life experiences.

If it’s available, I would like to have your and advices from an objective prospective, please kindly share your thoughts and I would be more than happy to have your advices.

Thank you so much and may all the best be with you.
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文章william700314 » 2008-02-07 01:29

Fisrt of all, congratulate on your successful application. Both schools are quite great. If you want to, I am more than happy to share with you some info. about these schools. Just drop me a message and tell me how I can contact you. I do not know why I cannot send you a private message through this forum. It could be technical problems or something else. Anyway, just tell me your contact info. if you want.
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文章joolow » 2008-02-08 14:22

Hi Henry,
I am first-year Georgetown MBA student who already sent short e-mail to you last week. I will recommend you to visit both schools because you will spend two years of time there. It's better to live and study in a place that you like. Shoot me e-mail if you have further questions about GU.
Best Wishes
Brian
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文章davidlee0222 » 2008-02-09 07:51

It's a critical decision since it's not only about the curriculum and rankings
but about the whole learning environment, culture, community...everything
and the outcome you're aiming at for your career

personally I studied in Europe before so I can share with you that it's a totally different planet there
economy, culture, business environment, legal structure, languages, value system, holidays, union system, recruiting process, people...etc.
especially you're going to study business, it's a big trade-off decision you'll have to make
I have friend study in IESE now, you may probably get more understanding about the school and the environment there

In terms of ranking, IESE is higher, one reason is the curriculum is more sophisticated than in Georgetown McDonough,
but not much since McDonough is also quite competitive on program design and the well-roundness. It seems IESE has a big bet on case studies that may affect in learning process, but it depends on how you value this approach for your study.

generally the curriculum itself now only plays a small part
since too many issues you need to juggle
although Spanish is quite a useful tool
it really depends on your future career, your learning capacity on language, and which part of world will you spend mostly on your career
you can have a general understanding about Spanish, but quite hardly to learn a fluent Spanish in a 2-year study
since most of your time will be dedicated in English
and your study quality on MBA might decrease too since you need to spend time on another language

for the rest are mostly outside the school
the business environment is almost upside down from in the U.S.
Fortune 1000 are mostly in the U.S.
and you'll see only rare global companies in the Europe but they're dominating the market
the most likely reason they are not that large in global scale but can avoid the U.S. competition
is due to the extremely complicated political economy environment in Europe as a whole
that the U.S. companies are reluctant to enter with such complex accommodation process
it'll be a very strange but cool experience
and that's another privilege to study in the U.S.
you're learning not only from the classes but from your live observation

feel free to shoot me email if you have questions
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文章MarkHsu » 2008-02-09 13:42

I would not say most Fortune 1000 companies are US companies. Keep in mind Fortune is also a US publication.

Also would not say that European companies do not operate w/ scale.

And I certainly wouldn't say that European companies are dominant only because they are not competing head-on with US companies.

Anyway, not here to pick a fight, but just want to correct some factual errors.

Here are my comments:

--Ask yourself how relevant US experience will be to your future?

--Where do you see the global economy heading?

--Figure out what you want out of an MBA.

Now my thoughts

--The world is idecoupling from US

--There are political and economic issues in US that may hurt US in the short & medium term, such as War in Iraq and the credit bust that is happening right now

--Smart money, e.g. Warren Buffett, Jim Rogers, Wall Street investment banks, etc. are looking for opportunities outside of the U.S.
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文章henrysung » 2008-02-10 00:00

Dear All,

Thank you for all of your wonderful advices. You make the situation clear to me that it’s not about the school now; it's the matter of location. I will take these days to find out the answer, thank you all.
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文章MarkHsu » 2008-02-10 10:21

Wait....

One more comment

Location is important, but either way I think DC vs Barcelona, you will get a different experience from Taiwan.

Curriculum: My take on curriculum is that MBA is all bullshit anyway, so I could really care less if it's Harvard or Stanford. Both Gtown or IESE are good enough schools.

Recruitment for Taiwanese students: Based on the results of the last 2 years, I would say IESE is MUCH STRONGER than Georgetown in traditional MBA industries, such as banking & consulting.

Return on Investment: Haven't done the detailed calculation, but assuming no scholarship, I think IESE would have the edge as well.

"Blue Ocean Factor:" I'd go to Barcelona. I rather be unique and "take the road less traveled" than be one of tens of thousands who has Taiwan/US experience only vs probably less than a 100 each yr who has Taiwan/Spanish (European) experience.
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