[問題]尋找至日本留學先進 有問題請教

[modern]

一橋有兩個program
我說的那個從網頁到表格應該都是英文的
也都有提到G,T需求

http://www.ics.hit-u.ac.jp/program/mba_download.php

[Frankts]

感謝modern大大
雖然憑現在的分數 我想是沒什麼指望
不過上網看了一下他的介紹 覺得還蠻好的
也祝你在股溝實習愉快!

[cburger]

Hi there,

When I was considering applying for MBA last year, I thought about applying to a few Japanese MBA schools. Even though I didn't end up applying, right now I am back in Japan interning. I met a few MBAs who are studying in Waseda and also hitotsubashi, so I have some ideas about their programs. Let me know what questions you have and I can try to answer it or find some people who have similar experience.

[Frankts]

Dear Cburger
I apprecitate for your passionate help!
Actually, I have many questions
I hope that answer these questions would't cost much yout time
1. The working experience: I work as a sales for two years for a pharmacetiual company. Besides, I serve for 1.67 year for Taiwan in Navy. Is this w/e qualified? I sent a e-mail to hitotsubashi, but it does not respond to me.
2. The Critera for GMAT: On the website, hitotsubashi says that high scores do not guarantee admission and low scores do not absolutely reject. I definitely sure about its policy. But I still want to know the range of GMAT score. For me a reference to know how high I have to get.
3. After reading hitotsubashi's program: I feel its program good. Does any the current student also agree? Or something I miss.
4. After graduation: On average,is easy for them to get a job? Besides, may I ask their average payment?

P.S After read modern's excellent articles, I collect the Japan school's information. Until now, I only read the hitotsubashi's program. If possibile, could you tell me more about the other school's difference?
Thanks a millilon!

[cburger]

Hi there:

1. the working experience seems adequate. The more important thing is how you package yourself and state what you want from the MBA experience

2. I seem to remember that 650 is the average for Waseda. So it should be similar across the schools

3. I think it's generally agreed in Japan that hitotsubashi is the best MBA school in Japan, followed by maybe keio or waseda. But All of the programs are very young, so their curriculum feels more academic (you have to hand in thesis for graduation, I think) compared to US schools.

4. I assume you are asking about finding a job in Japan.? It really depends if you are applying through Japanese recruiting or foreigner recruiting. By Japanese recruiting I mean you follow all the recruiting standard for a new Japanese job-seeker. That means all the interviews are in Japanese, and you are probably going to compete with all the other Japanese applicants. In this case, first your Japanese has to be very good. Second, they might not care that much about your multilingual background. It's a challenge but I know some foreigners from Waseda who successfully got a job through this process. If you are talking about foreigner recruiting process. I think the industries will probably be limited to mostly financial institutions and a few IT companies perhaps. I know a foreigner with hitotsubashi mba degree who interviewed with Sony and was assigned to Tokyo office. Overall, I would say the opportunities are there, but you have to carefully strategize your plan. Know your strengths and weaknesses, and find opportunities that fit your abilities.

As for salaries, it's just my personal guess, but considering the foreigner status and MBA education, I would say you can safely get above 300000yen per month.

Also, it may be better if you can talk a bit about your career plan right now. For example what industries do you want to go to, what you consider as your strength/weakness, etc.

[MarkHsu]

I think 300,000 Yen for Tokyo is extremely low and you probably shouldn't aim for that type of job.

The best path to working in JP is to just aim for the Multinational corps. And the best way to do this, in my opinion, is to get a top American or European MBA.

From what I have obsereved, Taiwanese who have done MBAs in Japan (Japanese speaking programs) have not had much success workings in JP. On the other hand, Taiwanese who speak conversational to near-native Japanese, with a top MBA have had good success in Japan.

[Frankts]

Thanks for cburger and MarkHsu
Let me understand more about the MBA program in Japan.
I will apply the America's MBA program, and I also want to apply one or two Japan's MBA program.
As cburger says, I want to learn a more language to strength my background. That's why I want to apply Japan's MBA.
Actually, I am interesting in M&A. But I don't know which school is good in this field. Moreover, the company which I worked for is merge with the other one. Both of them are Japan companies. That's the other reason that I want to apply Japan's MBA.

When I see the salary"300'000" yen,I am depressed. I remember in CD or another website, saw someone graduated from hitotsubashi earned 20'000'000 yen/year. That's surprised to me.
I know that everyone is different but I don't expect the gap is so huge. If on average, earning 300'000 yen, as MarkHsu says, is low.
Anyway, thanks for both of your recommendations. Now, what I have to do is let my GMAT higher.

[cburger]

I think having a high salary will be exclusively in the finance sector. I know a guy whose total package for a major Japanese company (top 30 US school, IT background) is around 7,000,000 yen (pre tax), not including relocation fee, housing subsidy, etc. After tax it is about 370000 yen per month. 300000 is a bit low but I would rather underestimate than overestimate ^^. If you are in the IB sector, the money is easily double of that. In that case it will reach about 15,000,000 to 20,000,000 yen per year. It will be the top of the curve though.

That's the reason I was asking you about your career plan, because IB is not for everyone. You earn twice as much, but you work probably more than twice as much. The salary looks pretty, but it comes with a cost. Also, if you don't have related experience prior to MBA, getting into the industry is already very hard. You can have expectation of earning big bucks, but at the same time, you have to realistic about your chances. Other than IB, I don't expect your first job out of MBA in Japan to be more than 10,000,000 yen per year (just personal guess). The offer in Japan will probably be 10% to 20% less than an equivalent offer in US, but there are some other factors to consider such as tax rate, company subsidy, etc.

if you are thinking about working in Japan, the important thing is to market yourself as a foreigner, regardless of your choice of MBA schools and language ability. I believe it will give you more leverages.

[Frankts]

Thanks cburger again and again........
Actually, I don't very sure what I really want to do. I mean, in IB or consulting or marketing...... But first, I want to get a high pay
If the payment is ok, then I will consider my favorite interest(M&A)
My background (Pharmacy and Japan Pharmaceutical company 2 yrs) Is this background with any advantage to IB or consulting or other fields? I answer to myself: No. So if I want to get more extra advantage to enter the high pay (high pressure ) fields. Would you suggest anything to me?

[cburger]

Maybe there are people more familiar with finance industry, but I will try to give my opinions....

First of all, how much would you consider "high pay"? If money is the most important factor, then just go for consulting/IB. Those are the 2 most high paying position for fresh MBAs. Also, with in those 2 industries, there are different tier of companies , but generally speaking, unless you have a specific background, you need to be at least top 15 to be considered for tier-1 companies (McKinsey, Goldman Sachs, etc). If you want to go for M&A, then it's better to utilize your previous experience, plus a finance concentration, so M&A in pharmaceutical field will be the best choice. Even so, I haven't heard a career-switcher MBA that gets into M&A right after school. Usually they will go into consulting/IB first before going into M&A specialization.

If you want to continue working in the pharmaceutical industry, then I think it would be good to go to California. Southern California has many pharmaceutical firms recruiting MBAs. They have internal consulting/company finance positions available. Those might be the closest fit to your experience.

[Frankts]

Dear cburger, thanks a billion
Your suggestions are very useful to me.
I will try to enrich my personal ability and background.
Wish you do everything well

[MarkHsu]

Clarification: M&A is not a specialization. It's one facet of what investment bankers do.

If you are looking to do this, I suggest that you make the career transition now and start moving closer towards your career goal before you get an MBA.

Having just a pharma sales background & an MBA is not likely to get you an IB job.

[Wutang]

I'm actually planning to go to Japan for graduate school as well, only if I get the scholarship....However, I'm not planning to go for my MBA, instead, a master in media design at Keio University. We can talk about this if you like. Just to make things more interesting if we can share our experiences.


best regards
James

[Frankts]

Thanks MarkHsu and Wutang
I wish to meet you as earlier as possibile.
I don't know that the M&A is a facet of IB until know.
I will try to get be more closer, but I am not sure how to do so.
Would anyone give me some suggestions?

Actually, I have only a little information about Japan's media master. That's sounds great. Because it links many beautiful Japan things to me. Wish you get the scholarship

[Wutang]

這邊只有MBA相關的資料

我之前post過文章介紹 一橋的英文MBA 日本國際大學也是用英文的 早稻田好像也有

至於大家熟悉的東大 　　沒有ＭＢＡ　　早稻田有　但應該是日文的

我自己是大推一橋


ＣＤ那邊也有一篇文章專論日本ＭＢＡ
你可以去亞洲區查　　應該也在前三頁就有

hitotsubashi was originally Tokyo U's b school. However, I think eventually Tokyo U will be opening its own b school again. So for people concern about obtaining a MBA in Japan, that wouldn't be a bad choice to make. You can expect Tokyo U's b school will rise because it is the top school in Japan, for instance, Cambridge and Oxford in Britain.