[問題]請教修辭高峰會裡面的問題(2)

[puthing]

4.(P.171)

The outbreak of the hoof-and-mouth disease in Taiwan may be a serious impact on both the economy and the enviorment.

書中說疾病爆發(outbreak)跟影響(impact)是不同類的

我總覺得似是而非......

因為中文來看是差不多的

(我知道用中文思考很不好.....不過還請大家看下去)

"疾病爆發是一個嚴重的影響"

是不是因為兩者是因果關係才不能用was呢?

我在這方面(同類不同類)的判斷滿弱的

還請大家指點一下



5.(P.182)

The young man bought the diamond ring that the woman insisted on if his proposal was to be considered seriously.

這裡用was to是為什麼呢?

書中解釋我不太明白咧.......

他說 if 子句中的事並非不可能,因此不該用假設語氣



6.(P.224)

The Hakka people are believed that they came form the

Central Plains, around the watershed of the Yellow River.

這句的表示有哪裡不好呢?

我找來找去都看不出來

書中解釋是說"咸信" (is believed) 的不是客家人這個民族

而是客家人來中原這件事

可是如果真的硬要改我也只會把them改themself而已咧.......

請問還有什麼其他大錯誤嗎?



7.(賴水信文法書P.396)

不同時間背景的條件子句跟結論子句

EX.If I had learned to swim last summer, I would be able to swim now.

在AT裡有這種考法嗎?

沒考過托福.....還請大家賜教

謝謝大家......

[puthing]

剛剛回去翻了高峰會那一題

也翻了老莫的講義

又發現一個問題

旋說可以改成這樣:

The Hakka people are believed to have come from the Central Plains,

around the .........(後略)

為什麼要加have阿?

難道是完成式的用法???

(可是這明明是個過去的動作阿........)

而且我看老莫的講義

這些推測動詞(EX:be believed, seem, appear, be known, etc.)

後面都是要加have的

再舉一例:

He is believed to have succeeded.

have跟succeed加在一起看起來就怪怪的咧

(持續到現在的成功?!)


請大家幫忙指點一下

thanx!!!

[yuying]

4. 不大了解這要考什麼…是be動詞平衡? 時態 ? 助動語態(假設語氣)? 還是?
好像是類似OG 9概念, an item不等於a type? The outbreak is one type of impact?
請Puthing再補充一下這句的語法點….

5. be to Verb = be going to Verb = be about to Verb
我從莫老修辭寶典看來的, 據說文法書上都有寫, 我沒有去查

6. 就如你上文所提到改成 are believe to have came…
如果你有上過美加的課, 莫老解釋就是兩者時間差異, 如果後者發生比較早,
就用have + PP. 時間一致用 to V.R即可
這點解釋和對岸解釋有點不太一樣, 但我覺得還蠻好用的, 目前作過的題目都還符合這個判斷原則
你可以參考考古Form 26-11和TS7-14

7. 混合型態的假設語氣用法, 也是莫老上課講過, 你可以查查專題講義
例句: 如果七年前學醫，我現在可能是醫生。
If I had studied medicine seven years ago, I might become a doctor now.
目前AT考題中我還沒有作過這種時式的題目就是了, 看看其他同學有沒有補充!

FYR!!

[puthing]

4. 不大了解這要考什麼…是be動詞平衡? 時態 ? 助動語態(假設語氣)? 還是?
好像是類似OG 9概念, an item不等於a type? The outbreak is one type of impact?
請Puthing再補充一下這句的語法點….

恩....好像就是an item不等於a type這意思

我覺得The outbreak is one type of impact

但是高峰會覺得不是嘍~

5. be to Verb = be going to Verb = be about to Verb
我從莫老修辭寶典看來的, 據說文法書上都有寫, 我沒有去查

我不清楚的是if子句裡面為什麼要這樣用

If 裡面用were to 有看過 可是用was to就沒看過了

而且在時態上會不會有問題呢?

6. 就如你上文所提到改成 are believe to have came…
如果你有上過美加的課, 莫老解釋就是兩者時間差異, 如果後者發生比較早,
就用have + PP. 時間一致用 to V.R即可
這點解釋和對岸解釋有點不太一樣, 但我覺得還蠻好用的, 目前作過的題目都還符合這個判斷原則
你可以參考考古Form 26-11和TS7-14

剛剛重新翻了講義跟考古題

有這樣的領悟

凡是推測動詞(EX:seem, appear, be believed, be supposed,etc.)

事件早發生用 have + P.P

EX.He is said to have been to America.
= It is said that he has been to America.

He seems to have walked a long way.
= It seems that he walked a long way.
" has walked "
(這題有點例外) .


推測跟事件同時發生用to be

EX.He is said to be a grest scholar.
= It is said that he is a grest scholar.

He was thought to be a lair.
= It was thought to be a lair.

有錯請指正喔!!!

7. 混合型態的假設語氣用法, 也是莫老上課講過, 你可以查查專題講義
例句: 如果七年前學醫，我現在可能是醫生。
If I had studied medicine seven years ago, I might become a doctor now.
目前AT考題中我還沒有作過這種時式的題目就是了, 看看其他同學有沒有補充!

我目前也沒看過這類考題

不過我會去翻翻補充講義的

謝謝您!
FYR!!

[yuying]

4. 不大了解這要考什麼…是be動詞平衡? 時態 ? 助動語態(假設語氣)? 還是?
好像是類似OG 9概念, an item不等於a type? The outbreak is one type of impact?
請Puthing再補充一下這句的語法點….

恩....好像就是an item不等於a type這意思

我覺得The outbreak is one type of impact

但是高峰會覺得不是嘍~

不太懂...方便再說清楚一下 書上的內容嗎 比較要同類是怎麼回事?

5. be to Verb = be going to Verb = be about to Verb
我從莫老修辭寶典看來的, 據說文法書上都有寫, 我沒有去查

我不清楚的是if子句裡面為什麼要這樣用

If 裡面用were to 有看過 可是用was to就沒看過了

而且在時態上會不會有問題呢?

恩...一般來說 要區分一下直說法和假設語氣
上面這個if ..was to...通常是直說法,而 if...were to...是現在事實相反假設法, 但一定要配合看一下主要子句中是否是假設語氣 would/should/could/might.
if was to...這個句子,就我的認知, 就是一個表進行的語態...
考古題Form17-21有類似考法-區分直說法和假設語氣

6. 就如你上文所提到改成 are believe to have came…
如果你有上過美加的課, 莫老解釋就是兩者時間差異, 如果後者發生比較早,
就用have + PP. 時間一致用 to V.R即可
這點解釋和對岸解釋有點不太一樣, 但我覺得還蠻好用的, 目前作過的題目都還符合這個判斷原則
你可以參考考古Form 26-11和TS7-14

剛剛重新翻了講義跟考古題

有這樣的領悟

凡是推測動詞(EX:seem, appear, be believed, be supposed,etc.)

事件早發生用 have + P.P

EX.He is said to have been to America.
= It is said that he has been to America.

He seems to have walked a long way.
= It seems that he walked a long way.
" has walked "
(這題有點例外) .


推測跟事件同時發生用to be

EX.He is said to be a grest scholar.
= It is said that he is a grest scholar.

He was thought to be a lair.
= It was thought to be a lair.

有錯請指正喔!!!

你的認知應該是正確的~以下的這個也沒有例外: walked發生比較早,用過去式. seems 是現在式
He seems to have walked a long way.
= It seems that he walked a long way.
" has walked "

For your reference!!

[puthing]

不太懂...方便再說清楚一下 書上的內容嗎 比較要同類是怎麼回事?

原文如下:

這個句子的毛病在於:

主詞是疾病爆發(outbreak),應該算是原因;

補語是影響(impact),可以算是結果

這兩者之間不是同等性質,不應該用全等關係來表示

(原文出於平行對撐關係之二)

謝謝您!