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[問題]GWD18-38

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[問題]GWD18-38

文章uioxcv » 2005-11-13 12:03

Q38:
A survey of entrepreneurs who started companies last year shows that while virtually all did substantial preparatory research and planning, only half used that work to produce a formal business plan. Since, on average, the entrepreneurs without formal plans secured the capital they needed in half the time of those with plans, these survey results indicate that, in general, formal plans did not help the entrepreneurs who produced them to secure the capital they needed.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument?

A. Companies started by entrepreneurs who had used formal business plans to attract investment were on the whole as profitable in their first year as were companies started by entrepreneurs who had not produced such plans.
B. In surveys of entrepreneurs who have attempted without success to raise sufficient capital, more than half of the respondents indicate that they have produced a formal business plan.
C. Among the entrepreneurs surveyed, those who did not produce formal business plans sought and received a much larger proportion of their capital from investors with whom they had a long-standing business relationship.
D. The entrepreneurs surveyed who did not produce a formal business plan spent nearly as much time doing preparatory research and planning as the entrepreneurs who produced plans.
E. The entrepreneurs who produced business plans generally reported later that the process of writing the plan had increased their confidence that their company would succeed.
Answer: B

不懂耶~~題目說發現沒計畫的公司比有計劃公司獲得資本的時間少一半~結論說所以計畫並不會幫助公司獲得資本.要問WEAKENED!
不懂選項B的意思?B說發現取得資本失敗的公司都是有計畫的!這樣怎會是削弱?是加強吧?
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文章uioxcv » 2005-11-13 12:08

SORRY~~我錯了~~答案是 C!! 但是C再說什麼呢?
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文章cimim » 2005-11-13 12:47

C應該是說 那些沒有計畫的人 有個長期合作的金主贊助它們吧
所以才可以不用計畫 可以亂花錢~
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文章meefoo » 2005-11-21 00:15

我看很久還是看不懂B選項的句意耶... 可不可以請那位大大幫忙翻譯一下... 謝謝喔!
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文章stilalala » 2005-12-03 21:48

meefoo \$m[1]:我看很久還是看不懂B選項的句意耶... 可不可以請那位大大幫忙翻譯一下... 謝謝喔!


這題我也看了很久

B. In surveys of entrepreneurs who have attempted without success to raise sufficient capital, more than half of the respondents indicate that they have produced a formal business plan.

在這個調查中,沒有成功募得足夠資金的創業家中,超過一半都說她們有produce formal plan

不知道對部隊,請多多指教
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文章FionaV » 2005-12-04 12:23

請問答案是B還是C? 我的解答說是B耶
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我是豬頭 看錯了 答案是C
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文章jameslu1208 » 2006-09-29 22:22

分享一下
A survey of entrepreneurs who started companies last year
shows that while virtually all did substantial preparatory
research and planning, only half used that work to produce a
formal business plan.

創業家每個都有很充分的計畫,但只有一半的人有做成正式的BP

Since, on average,the entrepreneurs without formal plans
secured the capital they needed in half the time of those with plans,

關鍵句子 沒有正式BP的創業家平均只用了有正式BP的創業家
一半的時間就能獲得(確保)他們所需的資金


these survey results indicate that, in general, formal plans did
not help the entrepreneurs who produced them to secure the
capital they needed.

所以研究顯示 正式BP 對創業家確保funding一點幫助都沒有

Without BP ----> secure capital faster
==> With BP ----> no Secure capital faster or no help

問weaken

C. Among the entrepreneurs surveyed, those who did not
produce formal business plans sought and received a much
larger proportion of their capital from investors with whom
they had a long-standing business relationship.

沒有寫BP的人都是向跟他們已經有長期商業關係的要funding
==> Without BP 不等於 secure capital faster

邏輯架構應該是 A ---> B ==> -A ---> -B
ans: 直接否定 A --X--> B

不知道大家覺得如何?!
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文章strancho » 2006-12-12 01:25

請問D 不行嗎?

我覺得既然他們也有spend time doing research, 這樣表示結論不成立

THANK YOU
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文章A級垂耳兔 » 2007-01-19 21:50

strancho \$m[1]:請問D 不行嗎?

我覺得既然他們也有spend time doing research, 這樣表示結論不成立

THANK YOU


無關吧...答案D是說有沒有籌資計畫所用的前置準備時間差不多一樣...重點在於籌資計畫提出後至拿到錢的這段時間...來比較長短....
就算前置時間用的一樣....但沒計畫的人仍然是用有計畫的人一半時間拿到錢...前置時間早在題幹考慮範圍之內~~~這樣並不能否定結論~~~
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文章Michael1020 » 2007-02-08 00:02

jameslu1208 \$m[1]:分享一下
A survey of entrepreneurs who started companies last year
shows that while virtually all did substantial preparatory
research and planning, only half used that work to produce a
formal business plan.

創業家每個都有很充分的計畫,但只有一半的人有做成正式的BP

Since, on average,the entrepreneurs without formal plans
secured the capital they needed in half the time of those with plans,

關鍵句子 沒有正式BP的創業家平均只用了有正式BP的創業家
一半的時間就能獲得(確保)他們所需的資金


these survey results indicate that, in general, formal plans did
not help the entrepreneurs who produced them to secure the
capital they needed.

所以研究顯示 正式BP 對創業家確保funding一點幫助都沒有

Without BP ----> secure capital faster
==> With BP ----> no Secure capital faster or no help

問weaken

C. Among the entrepreneurs surveyed, those who did not
produce formal business plans sought and received a much
larger proportion of their capital from investors with whom
they had a long-standing business relationship.

沒有寫BP的人都是向跟他們已經有長期商業關係的要funding
==> Without BP 不等於 secure capital faster

邏輯架構應該是 A ---> B ==> -A ---> -B
ans: 直接否定 A --X--> B

不知道大家覺得如何?!


寫的很清楚!
但想問一下這樣算是"他因反駁"嗎?
而你所說的直接否定是否定掉without BP的嗎?
頭腦很鈍 +o(
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Re: [問題]GWD18-38

文章pastatasty » 2007-02-16 16:47

[quote="uioxcv"]Q38:
A survey of entrepreneurs who started companies last year shows that while virtually all did substantial preparatory research and planning, only half used that work to produce a formal business plan. Since, on average, the entrepreneurs without formal plans secured the capital they needed in half the time of those with plans, these survey results indicate that, in general, formal plans did not help the entrepreneurs who produced them to secure the capital they needed.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument?

A. Companies started by entrepreneurs who had used formal business plans to attract investment were on the whole as profitable in their first year as were companies started by entrepreneurs who had not produced such plans.
B. In surveys of entrepreneurs who have attempted without success to raise sufficient capital, more than half of the respondents indicate that they have produced a formal business plan.
C. Among the entrepreneurs surveyed, those who did not produce formal business plans sought and received a much larger proportion of their capital from investors with whom they had a long-standing business relationship.
D. The entrepreneurs surveyed who did not produce a formal business plan spent nearly as much time doing preparatory research and planning as the entrepreneurs who produced plans.
E. The entrepreneurs who produced business plans generally reported later that the process of writing the plan had increased their confidence that their company would succeed.


請問E為何不行?
題目最後說正式計畫未幫助籌資金
WEAKEN
E說正式計畫會把紀錄留下來讓人相信她們會成功
不就反駁結論所說的嗎??
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Re: [問題]GWD18-38

文章willyyang » 2007-05-11 13:05

[quote="pastatasty"][quote="uioxcv"]Q38:
A survey of entrepreneurs who started companies last year shows that while virtually all did substantial preparatory research and planning, only half used that work to produce a formal business plan. Since, on average, the entrepreneurs without formal plans secured the capital they needed in half the time of those with plans, these survey results indicate that, in general, formal plans did not help the entrepreneurs who produced them to secure the capital they needed.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument?

A. Companies started by entrepreneurs who had used formal business plans to attract investment were on the whole as profitable in their first year as were companies started by entrepreneurs who had not produced such plans.
B. In surveys of entrepreneurs who have attempted without success to raise sufficient capital, more than half of the respondents indicate that they have produced a formal business plan.
C. Among the entrepreneurs surveyed, those who did not produce formal business plans sought and received a much larger proportion of their capital from investors with whom they had a long-standing business relationship.
D. The entrepreneurs surveyed who did not produce a formal business plan spent nearly as much time doing preparatory research and planning as the entrepreneurs who produced plans.
E. The entrepreneurs who produced business plans generally reported later that the process of writing the plan had increased their confidence that their company would succeed.


[b][color=orange]請問E為何不行?
題目最後說正式計畫未幫助籌資金
WEAKEN
E說正式計畫會把紀錄留下來讓人相信她們會成功
不就反駁結論所說的嗎??[/b][/color][/quote]

其實是無關的
再看一次最後一句
...these survey results indicate that, in general, formal plan did not help the entrepreneurs who produced them to secure the capital they need.

這裡是要 weaken的地方

也就是我們不管他們有沒有 "confidence"

只管 plan是否幫助 secure the capital

以上
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文章gan4sula » 2007-09-20 11:25

jameslu1208 \$m[1]:分享一下
A survey of entrepreneurs who started companies last year
shows that while virtually all did substantial preparatory
research and planning, only half used that work to produce a
formal business plan.

創業家每個都有很充分的計畫,但只有一半的人有做成正式的BP

Since, on average,the entrepreneurs without formal plans
secured the capital they needed in half the time of those with plans,

關鍵句子 沒有正式BP的創業家平均只用了有正式BP的創業家
一半的時間就能獲得(確保)他們所需的資金


these survey results indicate that, in general, formal plans did
not help the entrepreneurs who produced them to secure the
capital they needed.

所以研究顯示 正式BP 對創業家確保funding一點幫助都沒有

Without BP ----> secure capital faster
==> With BP ----> no Secure capital faster or no help

問weaken

C. Among the entrepreneurs surveyed, those who did not
produce formal business plans sought and received a much
larger proportion of their capital from investors with whom
they had a long-standing business relationship.

沒有寫BP的人都是向跟他們已經有長期商業關係的要funding
==> Without BP 不等於 secure capital faster

邏輯架構應該是 A ---> B ==> -A ---> -B
ans: 直接否定 A --X--> B

不知道大家覺得如何?!


覺得不行, 沒辦法用反證來推
A=是貓,
B=有四支腳
是貓 ---> 有四支腳 ==> 不是貓 ----> 沒有四支腳 ........ 這....推的出來嗎
不是貓----> 沒有四支腳 也不能否定 是貓----->有四支腳

不成立吧
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文章gan4sula » 2007-09-20 13:46

Michael1020 \$m[1]:
jameslu1208 \$m[1]:分享一下
A survey of entrepreneurs who started companies last year
shows that while virtually all did substantial preparatory
research and planning, only half used that work to produce a
formal business plan.

創業家每個都有很充分的計畫,但只有一半的人有做成正式的BP

Since, on average,the entrepreneurs without formal plans
secured the capital they needed in half the time of those with plans,

關鍵句子 沒有正式BP的創業家平均只用了有正式BP的創業家
一半的時間就能獲得(確保)他們所需的資金


these survey results indicate that, in general, formal plans did
not help the entrepreneurs who produced them to secure the
capital they needed.

所以研究顯示 正式BP 對創業家確保funding一點幫助都沒有

Without BP ----> secure capital faster
==> With BP ----> no Secure capital faster or no help

問weaken

C. Among the entrepreneurs surveyed, those who did not
produce formal business plans sought and received a much
larger proportion of their capital from investors with whom
they had a long-standing business relationship.

沒有寫BP的人都是向跟他們已經有長期商業關係的要funding
==> Without BP 不等於 secure capital faster

邏輯架構應該是 A ---> B ==> -A ---> -B
ans: 直接否定 A --X--> B

不知道大家覺得如何?!


寫的很清楚!
但想問一下這樣算是"他因反駁"嗎?
而你所說的直接否定是否定掉without BP的嗎?
頭腦很鈍 +o(


我同意你的說法
因為En. with no BP obtain their funding because of another reason, so the argument cannot conclude that BP does no help by this fact.

(I personally think that to point out that BP does helps does a better job weakening the argument)

A) discuss profit after initiated the company rather than securing funding

B) Half of En. failed to get funding made BP, this strengthen the argument

D) discuss the time that En. spent rather than securing funding

E) discuss the confidents that En. gain rather than whether BP helps securing funding
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