感謝傷咖的板友,我有許多申請資訊都是從這裡獲得的,對伱們的付出,我會永記在心!
過去一年我是在兵荒馬亂中準備留學考試和申請的 (因剛被upgrade, 績效壓力很大),很慶幸自己終於在昨日收到offer了~到目前為止都還呈現很興奮的狀態~如果板友對這個programme的申請有疑問,可以mail給我~我一定盡我所知相告!
對了, 由於這個programme非常強調有finance相關的工作經驗(at least 5-6 years), 所以若您是想轉業的,也許不太適合申請MiF (Masters in Finance),
MBA或許會更適合您.
我只申請了LBS MiF(1st round) 和Oxford MBA(2nd round), 兩間的interview都在最近這兩個禮拜結束了, 不管Oxford的結果如何,我決定accept LBS MiF了
My background:
NCCU BA Economics GPA 3.09
GMAT 680 (V 32 Q50 AWA 4.5)
IELTS 6.5 (too bad, LBS didn't require me to send the score report)
Work Experience: 6 years ( 1year financial specialist in local securities co. and 5 years in a global leading asset management co. and position as portfolio manager currently.)
Reference letters: 1 from regional senior portfolio manager (HK)
1 from my former superviser - Taiwan Chief Investment Officer ( now, he relocates to HK)
1 from my previous colleague, now he relocates to HK and positions as portfolio manager in another foreign in HK)
If you have interest in the programme, please feel free to let me know.
Admitted by LBS (MiF)
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由 amada178 » 2007-04-01 12:34
Eventually, I was rejected by Oxford Said Business School, probably because my GPA and IELTS scores are extremely below their requirements or my question offended the interviewer (ex: I asked him how do they compete with other top biz schools either in US or Europe as their MBA is merely one year program). Anyway, I failed to be offered by Oxford. I believe Said is a potential biz school given a plenty of resources from Oxford network. Hope you go well with the application.
Here I would like to share more experiences with you regarding my application on LBS Masters in Finance program.
In fact, LBS usually offer around 2 seats to Taiwanese applicants of MiF program, currently, I am the only Taiwanese admit of the program for the Sep. 2007 based on LBS’s intranet. I will encourage you to apply the program as long as you have average test scores (GMAT 670-690/ TOEFL 260/ IELTS 7) and 4-5 years work experiences. When I submitted my application in mid Dec. last year, I didn’t fill in my IELTS score on application form as I thought my score was not good and had to retake the test once I got conditional offer. Fortunately, LBS gave me offer even without language score, implying they don’t regard language score as essential as other materials in case you have worked in the international firms over three years. Meanwhile, they will review your English ability through alumni interview. If you have similar work environment or live in English-speaking countries, you can waive your language score as well, unless the admission officers require you to submit.
In terms of reference letter, I only requested my former supervise and senior colleagues to be my referees. I submitted three letters as I mentioned in the opening discussion. Compared with professors in the university, my referees from work place can prove my consistent performance in the company over the past five years, in my view. I will suggest you choose referees from your work places as well because LBS care your work experiences more than your study performance in the university.
In addition to decent scores on GMAT & language test (either TOEFL or IELTS), you must make the most effort to edit your personal statement. As I mentioned, LBS prefer to accept applicants who have prosperous work experiences. They usually highlight your company name, job position, and main duty. Consequently, I would suggest you strengthen your story in terms of work experiences as much as you can and bear in mind that you must use words precisely and ambitiously. According to the school’s data, most of admits at MiF program have 5-6 years finance work experiences, particularly in accounting firms, investment banks, asset management, commercial banks, or other relevant areas ( ex: lawyer, who mainly covers business law).
Like MBA, MiF at LBS is definitely a work-oriented program. The latest employment report, provided by LBS finance program office, indicates 44% of MiF graduates are employed by Investment Banks, 13% by asset management, 10% by Private Equity, and 7% by consulting firms. Actually, MBA's work placement is very similar with MiF's at LBS, if your background is irrelevant to finance, I would suggest you try to apply for MBA because the school can offer you a good opportunity to contact renowned firms in finance industry through consecutive campus recruitment, while they can’t guarantee you a marvelous job in line with your expectation finally. Good Luck to You!
Here I would like to share more experiences with you regarding my application on LBS Masters in Finance program.
In fact, LBS usually offer around 2 seats to Taiwanese applicants of MiF program, currently, I am the only Taiwanese admit of the program for the Sep. 2007 based on LBS’s intranet. I will encourage you to apply the program as long as you have average test scores (GMAT 670-690/ TOEFL 260/ IELTS 7) and 4-5 years work experiences. When I submitted my application in mid Dec. last year, I didn’t fill in my IELTS score on application form as I thought my score was not good and had to retake the test once I got conditional offer. Fortunately, LBS gave me offer even without language score, implying they don’t regard language score as essential as other materials in case you have worked in the international firms over three years. Meanwhile, they will review your English ability through alumni interview. If you have similar work environment or live in English-speaking countries, you can waive your language score as well, unless the admission officers require you to submit.
In terms of reference letter, I only requested my former supervise and senior colleagues to be my referees. I submitted three letters as I mentioned in the opening discussion. Compared with professors in the university, my referees from work place can prove my consistent performance in the company over the past five years, in my view. I will suggest you choose referees from your work places as well because LBS care your work experiences more than your study performance in the university.
In addition to decent scores on GMAT & language test (either TOEFL or IELTS), you must make the most effort to edit your personal statement. As I mentioned, LBS prefer to accept applicants who have prosperous work experiences. They usually highlight your company name, job position, and main duty. Consequently, I would suggest you strengthen your story in terms of work experiences as much as you can and bear in mind that you must use words precisely and ambitiously. According to the school’s data, most of admits at MiF program have 5-6 years finance work experiences, particularly in accounting firms, investment banks, asset management, commercial banks, or other relevant areas ( ex: lawyer, who mainly covers business law).
Like MBA, MiF at LBS is definitely a work-oriented program. The latest employment report, provided by LBS finance program office, indicates 44% of MiF graduates are employed by Investment Banks, 13% by asset management, 10% by Private Equity, and 7% by consulting firms. Actually, MBA's work placement is very similar with MiF's at LBS, if your background is irrelevant to finance, I would suggest you try to apply for MBA because the school can offer you a good opportunity to contact renowned firms in finance industry through consecutive campus recruitment, while they can’t guarantee you a marvelous job in line with your expectation finally. Good Luck to You!
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由 cholilondon » 2007-04-22 07:43
Congraz as well!!
If you come to London before the mid of Sep and need a local "fake Londoner"
to give you a guide. You can contact me (choli1212@hotmail.com).
I currently studying HRM in London as well (But not as excellent as the LBS la ^^).
You must know that your building is quite pretty and nice.
Hope you enjoy your time here!
Charlie
If you come to London before the mid of Sep and need a local "fake Londoner"
to give you a guide. You can contact me (choli1212@hotmail.com).
I currently studying HRM in London as well (But not as excellent as the LBS la ^^).
You must know that your building is quite pretty and nice.
Hope you enjoy your time here!
Charlie
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Re: Admitted by LBS (MiF)
由 magic10 » 2007-06-10 17:31
請問樓主
可以分享一下您準備LBS (MiF)的過程
以及相關的時間點嗎
因為我對這個也有興趣
謝謝您
可以分享一下您準備LBS (MiF)的過程
以及相關的時間點嗎
因為我對這個也有興趣
謝謝您
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由 amada178 » 2007-06-11 14:21
其實申請的時間表雖然重要, 但最關鍵還是決心和心態.
以下的分享是我個人的經驗和想法，因為五六年沒在網路上分享這麼長篇大論，所以花了數小時才完成，看到這麼多人願意分享，希望自己也能回饋傷咖版友，懇請各位在此參考就好，不要轉載其他網站，謝謝幫忙。
雖然出國唸書一直是我學生時代的夢想，但就業後，心境也隨著工作起伏而產生變化，留學的念頭時而浮現時而消逝，很難下定決心。直到2006年中，敝公司的組織產生巨大的變化，我的恩師－提拔我多年的老闆，他決定離開台灣回到香港，我留學的決心才確立成形。因為我也想去香港! 這幾年我身邊的前輩一個個都跳到香港去，他們對台灣的金融投資產業已經不抱希望，外商金融集團的重心都在香港。但是，香港的金融投資圈，不管是top buyside or top sellside (後者主要指IB equity research division，這是我主要往來的部門，IB其他部門我不熟，不過他們有些人是從IBD跳到research的)，有三年以上外商金融機構工作經驗，並頂著名校光環＋媲美native speakers英文口語能力的華人多如過江之鯽，名片亮出來CFA+CPA也比比皆是，更別提越來越多唸M7回亞洲找機會的ABC。
眾所皆知，外資金融投資圈相當重視人脈和學歷，因為僧多粥少！尤其是top financial firms，過去這幾年我認識那些領global pay的IB equity research或 top buyside的新進人員，年齡在35歲以下的，90%以上都是念top biz schools。35歲以上學歷一般的前輩還可以靠年資及人脈上去，但年輕一輩不可避免的得先在硬件比一比，競爭情勢已今非昔比了。現在香港金融圈雖然機會多，但大批的中國和印度人也紛紛搶進卡位。我這幾年的感想是，並不是top biz出來的人腦袋特別聰明，而是學習態度和自律精神普遍較佳，工作表現是建築在正確且積極的心態上，因此，他們的工作績效表現多半是比較整齊的。僧多粥少之下，在entry level positions的部份，業界自然從top biz挑了，而mid-high end positions，再從這個體系上來的人，搭配業界熟人對其工作表現的優劣去挑，至少這對公司的風險最低了。公司如果需要投入相對較長的觀察期來審核一位硬件相對差的人，這對分秒都在變化的國際金融環境是較高的機會成本。我深知和這些人的resume比，自己硬件競爭力太弱。即使我僥倖進去了，獃在都是唸top biz的工作環境，我自己也會增加一些無謂的壓力。我認為，在一群學歷相當的人群中，特殊的那個人(either worse or better)工作表現總是會特別受到矚目，若大家的背景差異不大，這時工作績效才比較不會被主觀偏見所影響。
因此，在我下定決心追隨前輩們腳步，前往亞洲金融中心-香港的同時，我也開始利用下班之餘積極準備留學相關事宜，7-10月我把所有的週末和年假都拿來唸AT，10月考完AT (我的目標本來定700，考了兩次還是沒到，跟前輩們聊過的結論是，我的工作經驗也許可以彌補這部份的不足，所以我才放手一搏)，12月初拿到三封推薦信，12月中完成personal statement (MiF的PS有點像essay, 但僅有三個主軸題目，共需1000字)，我在聖誕節前很緊急的就submit了。因為擔心2nd round的錄取機率會降低，再加上MiF的1st round申請是不需要application fee。建議你，如要申請1st round，最好在10月底前就submit了，依照LBS的效率，你可以在聖誕節前拿到offer，開開心心過平安夜~
我從申請到拿到offer，花了兩個月時間。這在效率極佳的LBS是挺少見的，我在申請前看了所有chasedream上LBS成功申請者的經驗談，他們多半都只花了一個月。因為我犯了一個嚴重的錯誤，MiF 的admission officer在我submit後寄了兩封信給我，我只注意到第一封的確認信，隔兩天的第二封我就miss了(我提供的是公司的mail address，但每天收到的中英文報告和往來信件數百封，AO的mail就埋沒其中)。一個月後他們又再寄一封mail給我，提醒我，他們有封信我還沒回。其實他們的問題很簡單，只是確認我是不是在職，如果沒有的話，開學前的這八個月我有何打算。因為我填application form一時疏忽並沒有明確指出我尚在職。所以我當下很緊急的處理，並迅速回信，之後的流程就跑的很快了。建議你，申請時記得留你平常一定會收且信件不會過多的信箱比較妥當，另外，未確定拿到offer前盡量不要無工作狀態。
選校的部份，我有很堅定的機會成本考量，兩年MBA or 非finance強校 or 錄取者的平均工作經驗低於五年的學校完全不考慮，所以US的top biz我就放棄了，而歐洲也只有LBS的MiF符合我的需求，加上有些我景仰的前輩建議我可以申請LBS，所以這間學校從我開始認真準備留學就是我的首選了。Oxford MBA雖新，但是我個人還蠻喜歡這所學校的，所以緊接著LBS，我有丟出Oxford的申請。雖然不幸未能拿到Oxford的offer，但幸運之神給我機會進入LBS，我想這樣在學歷那關至少算安全了。
希望我的一些想法和申請經驗對你或其他對LBS MiF有興趣的人有一點幫助，另外建議你可參考LBS和chasedream的歐洲討論區，這兩個地方也有許多對申請很有幫助的資訊。目前離2008年1st round的申請還有四個多月，機會還很大，加油!
以下的分享是我個人的經驗和想法，因為五六年沒在網路上分享這麼長篇大論，所以花了數小時才完成，看到這麼多人願意分享，希望自己也能回饋傷咖版友，懇請各位在此參考就好，不要轉載其他網站，謝謝幫忙。
雖然出國唸書一直是我學生時代的夢想，但就業後，心境也隨著工作起伏而產生變化，留學的念頭時而浮現時而消逝，很難下定決心。直到2006年中，敝公司的組織產生巨大的變化，我的恩師－提拔我多年的老闆，他決定離開台灣回到香港，我留學的決心才確立成形。因為我也想去香港! 這幾年我身邊的前輩一個個都跳到香港去，他們對台灣的金融投資產業已經不抱希望，外商金融集團的重心都在香港。但是，香港的金融投資圈，不管是top buyside or top sellside (後者主要指IB equity research division，這是我主要往來的部門，IB其他部門我不熟，不過他們有些人是從IBD跳到research的)，有三年以上外商金融機構工作經驗，並頂著名校光環＋媲美native speakers英文口語能力的華人多如過江之鯽，名片亮出來CFA+CPA也比比皆是，更別提越來越多唸M7回亞洲找機會的ABC。
眾所皆知，外資金融投資圈相當重視人脈和學歷，因為僧多粥少！尤其是top financial firms，過去這幾年我認識那些領global pay的IB equity research或 top buyside的新進人員，年齡在35歲以下的，90%以上都是念top biz schools。35歲以上學歷一般的前輩還可以靠年資及人脈上去，但年輕一輩不可避免的得先在硬件比一比，競爭情勢已今非昔比了。現在香港金融圈雖然機會多，但大批的中國和印度人也紛紛搶進卡位。我這幾年的感想是，並不是top biz出來的人腦袋特別聰明，而是學習態度和自律精神普遍較佳，工作表現是建築在正確且積極的心態上，因此，他們的工作績效表現多半是比較整齊的。僧多粥少之下，在entry level positions的部份，業界自然從top biz挑了，而mid-high end positions，再從這個體系上來的人，搭配業界熟人對其工作表現的優劣去挑，至少這對公司的風險最低了。公司如果需要投入相對較長的觀察期來審核一位硬件相對差的人，這對分秒都在變化的國際金融環境是較高的機會成本。我深知和這些人的resume比，自己硬件競爭力太弱。即使我僥倖進去了，獃在都是唸top biz的工作環境，我自己也會增加一些無謂的壓力。我認為，在一群學歷相當的人群中，特殊的那個人(either worse or better)工作表現總是會特別受到矚目，若大家的背景差異不大，這時工作績效才比較不會被主觀偏見所影響。
因此，在我下定決心追隨前輩們腳步，前往亞洲金融中心-香港的同時，我也開始利用下班之餘積極準備留學相關事宜，7-10月我把所有的週末和年假都拿來唸AT，10月考完AT (我的目標本來定700，考了兩次還是沒到，跟前輩們聊過的結論是，我的工作經驗也許可以彌補這部份的不足，所以我才放手一搏)，12月初拿到三封推薦信，12月中完成personal statement (MiF的PS有點像essay, 但僅有三個主軸題目，共需1000字)，我在聖誕節前很緊急的就submit了。因為擔心2nd round的錄取機率會降低，再加上MiF的1st round申請是不需要application fee。建議你，如要申請1st round，最好在10月底前就submit了，依照LBS的效率，你可以在聖誕節前拿到offer，開開心心過平安夜~
我從申請到拿到offer，花了兩個月時間。這在效率極佳的LBS是挺少見的，我在申請前看了所有chasedream上LBS成功申請者的經驗談，他們多半都只花了一個月。因為我犯了一個嚴重的錯誤，MiF 的admission officer在我submit後寄了兩封信給我，我只注意到第一封的確認信，隔兩天的第二封我就miss了(我提供的是公司的mail address，但每天收到的中英文報告和往來信件數百封，AO的mail就埋沒其中)。一個月後他們又再寄一封mail給我，提醒我，他們有封信我還沒回。其實他們的問題很簡單，只是確認我是不是在職，如果沒有的話，開學前的這八個月我有何打算。因為我填application form一時疏忽並沒有明確指出我尚在職。所以我當下很緊急的處理，並迅速回信，之後的流程就跑的很快了。建議你，申請時記得留你平常一定會收且信件不會過多的信箱比較妥當，另外，未確定拿到offer前盡量不要無工作狀態。
選校的部份，我有很堅定的機會成本考量，兩年MBA or 非finance強校 or 錄取者的平均工作經驗低於五年的學校完全不考慮，所以US的top biz我就放棄了，而歐洲也只有LBS的MiF符合我的需求，加上有些我景仰的前輩建議我可以申請LBS，所以這間學校從我開始認真準備留學就是我的首選了。Oxford MBA雖新，但是我個人還蠻喜歡這所學校的，所以緊接著LBS，我有丟出Oxford的申請。雖然不幸未能拿到Oxford的offer，但幸運之神給我機會進入LBS，我想這樣在學歷那關至少算安全了。
希望我的一些想法和申請經驗對你或其他對LBS MiF有興趣的人有一點幫助，另外建議你可參考LBS和chasedream的歐洲討論區，這兩個地方也有許多對申請很有幫助的資訊。目前離2008年1st round的申請還有四個多月，機會還很大，加油!
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