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帖子IceCo » 2007-06-24 06:09

我在CD上寫了一篇帖子,希望能幫上大家一點忙.
http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp ... &id=258547
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帖子A級垂耳兔 » 2007-06-25 10:39

我幫你頂...真的說的好...很詳細~~~
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帖子Frankts » 2007-06-25 18:55

IceCO大 寫的真的很好 把很多心得都和大家分享
不過我有一點點小小的疑問 看到很多人都說總結
可以請教一下總結的意思?
是指把每一題都分類(分成幾類?)
還是每一題都詳細找出考點
還是.... :|||
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帖子Kal-El » 2007-06-25 22:14

請教高手一下~
您 RC有take-notes嗎?
若take-notes會否降低閱讀速度呢?
若不take-notes會否難應付這麼繞的文章&影響準確度呢?
感激賜教^^
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帖子A級垂耳兔 » 2007-06-25 22:49

別用徐文意那些爛招...除非他可以當場在時間內示範給你看...
考試時間緊湊根本不允許take note...別養成這種壞習慣...會害死人的~~~
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帖子IceCo » 2007-06-26 08:23

總結有很多種方法, 目的是要找出出題的思路, 到底在考什麼, 為什麼要這樣考, 出題人到底在想什麼, 總結多了, 我發覺, GMAT 出題就那幾招. 搞清楚出題的思路後,再以大量真題鍛鍊自己對這些考點的敏感度.直到模考上到滿意的分數為止.

You can research how other people 總結 in CD or 傷心咖啡店. :) Different sections have different ways to 總結.

RC take notes... 我在Kaplan上課時有用那招. Then I found that the trick is really nothing but trash. 那些教我們要 take notes 的老師真的是害死人,可惡之極, 八成從書上學來的,不是自己親身體驗. I will give you my reasons first and then share my own personal experience.

Reasons not to take notes:
1. You don't have time. Why? Think about it. What you need to take notes during a RC? 1). I need to understand the passage. 2). I need to convert the passage into my own words or image in my head. 3). I have to convert whatever in my head back to words again. 4). I have to spend time writing the sentence. 4 Steps! Does it make sense to you?

2. If you have time to take notes during the exam, that means your verbal is already very strong (since you are doing the exam so fast). If I were you, I would use the extra time reading the passage more carefully and analyze the structure more thoroughly rather than waste time taking notes.

3. Taking notes breaks your rhythm reading the passage. And having a good rhythm, in my opinion, is really one of the keys that I do well in the exam.

4. Now, even if you take notes, you will not have time to review them once you get to the questions. 讀題意都來不及了那來的時間讀自己沒頭沒腦的notes啊.

My own experience taking notes:
At first, 我乖乖地照Kaplan教我的, and take notes for every single passage. I also write down the main idea, topic sentence, and scope at the end of my summary. The results? I never have time looking back to my notes. 再說,有時間看notes還不如直接看原文.

My Kaplan teacher told me that taking notes will help you to analyze the structure. True. But I think that taking notes is the trick for 650. If you want to score above 700, I think that you MUST 鍛鍊自己的 short-term memory, 能在短時間內不用筆紙, 直接把notes印在你腦裡. When I read a passage, I also position all the critical points in my head. If I need to refer back to the passage to answer the question, I can always position the info really quickly.

So how do you train your short-term memory? My way is... 小安總結閱讀法 + Critical Reading. Critical reading is really the key to do well in RC. When you 總結, you have to keep asking yourself how to critically read the passage.

I am really against notes. I really doubt if those GMAT teachers who teach their students to take notes in the exam can score above 700+ themselves. I hate it so much because I have wasted so much time trying to master this unless technique. 氣死我也. >.<

Hope this will help! :laugh
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帖子A級垂耳兔 » 2007-06-26 10:43

說得好...再頂...
take note真的會中斷看文章時的思考...這對整個文章的理解會產生重大影響的...
我對閱讀的方法是...閱讀時注意好比出現什麼人物...什麼資訊...什麼關鍵字...就算看不懂...但是我只要記住位置就好...看題目時在快速定位挑答案...

因為take note要是take到不會考的東西...就算你了解因果關係...也只是浪費時間...我認為閱讀時重點在知道重要資訊的位置...就算當下不懂其實沒差...最後定位時再讀懂就好了~~~
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帖子Kal-El » 2007-06-26 13:53

了不起的經典啊~^^
把整篇文章當你的Note Book
"用記位置的方法"來Take-Notes in your mind
.....這樣解釋對嗎^^?
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帖子A級垂耳兔 » 2007-06-26 23:10

沒錯...這就是小弟的怪招...最近連上了五天的家教...更有心得了...
反正ETS怎麼玩就那幾個爛招...
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帖子dibert8 » 2007-06-27 13:28

看來高分需要決心和硬功夫;準備期間經歷莫名瘋狂的錯,甚至懷疑自己的能力,總結得非常痛苦...困而知之!
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帖子IceCo » 2007-06-28 03:55

By the way, 我建議你一定要總結, 總結後你就會發現, GMAT 的 passage structure 就那幾個 template. For example:

P1. The author introduces something. Some scholars are against it and others are for it.
P2. Talk about one side.
P3. Talk about another side.
P4. Author's 補充說明 (might raise his own opinions sometimes).

Sometimes P1 and P2 will be combined. Sometimes P4 will not exist. And sometimes there is only one side (報喜了, 簡單).

你自己去看看og, 有多少就是照這版模改寫的. ;))
到最後,看一句(尤其是Social Science)我都可以猜出來文章的考點+structure會怎麼出. 然後在考點的地方放慢閱讀速度.

GMAT對我來說... 就是要... 決不放棄, 一直堅持到在實戰中按下 Verbal Q41 的 Next button 為止. MBA 是我夢想的第一步, GMAT 則是通往MBA一扇沉重的大門. 互相勉勵吧! ;))
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帖子dibert8 » 2007-06-30 02:24

感謝分享總結!我也是理工背景(電機),看了在CD上的心路歷程,準備的方式蠻合乎我的觀念.有時周圍的人不太能體會為什麼準備一個考試搞得這麼痛苦(花時間上網討論,做筆記總結,因為一人多工,有時一天只解兩三題...);然而CD上的分享讓我得到一個參考點:這是一個行得通的途徑.
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帖子hwatai » 2007-07-06 00:53

dibert8 \$m[1]:看來高分需要決心和硬功夫;準備期間經歷莫名瘋狂的錯,甚至懷疑自己的能力,總結得非常痛苦...困而知之!


共勉之

套句棋靈王的對白:痛苦、迷惑,都是修鍊必要的過程

準備AT最痛苦的事,以SC為例,莫過於總結了og,自認為考點都摸透了,接著卻被大全重擊一次;

好不容易爬起來,進入GWD,做了幾套很順,又突然被連續幾套題目重擊......

非常痛苦,某套題目我對完答案後氣憤到直接關機,根本沒心情檢討,這種見山不是山,見水不是水的過程,正是一種修鍊吧....

大家加油~
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帖子johnjwwjd » 2007-07-07 16:33

Ice & Mr rabbit superb post! ;yes;


看了 both 高手經典的招示 要再頂一下:PP
both methods are absolute correct, "一定要總結, 總結後就會發現, GMAT就那幾個 template" & "閱讀時重點在知道重要資訊的位置".....


I personally never spent more then 8min for each RC, 4min max for first Q (bcuz have to read passage) then 1 min each for following Qs. Why waste time making notes? ^o)

You are doing EXAM not making a REPORT ^o^!
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