TTGWD2-Q3

[ggethan]

TTGWD2-3
Not one of the potential investors is expected to make an offer to buy First Interstate Bank until a merger agreement is signed that includes a provision for penalties if the deal were not to be concluded.

A. is expected to make an offer to buy First Interstate Bank until a merger agreement is signed that includes a provision for penalties if the deal were
B. is expected to make an offer for buying First Interstate Bank until they sign a merger agreement including a provision for penalties if the deal was
C. is expected to make an offer to buy First Interstate Bank until a merger agreement be signed by them with a provision for penalties if the deal were
D. are expected to make an offer for buying First Interstate Bank until it signs a merger agreement with a provision for penalties included if the deal was
E. are expected to be making an offer to buy First Interstate Bank until they sign a merger agreement including a provision for penalties if the deal were

答案給C 我選B
我想問的是
(1).如果選C, 好像變成有兩個從屬子句連用1.until...penalties 2.if the deal were... not to be concluded 這樣不太合理吧
(2)若要用if the deal were...假設法,但是主要子句並沒有用would/could/should/might這樣是不是表應該用was(直說法ㄋ)
(3)答案c改用被動,看起來就是一個怪,
國外的網站大家討論是ａ不知道大家覺得如何

我選ｂ後來才發現make an offer for好像應該改用to 不過基於直說法的裡由 我一開始就刪掉a了,畢竟時態跟慣用語比起來是比較容易判斷的錯誤

[dibert8]

(C) 為什麼用原形動詞 be ?

我是這麼做:
(A) to buy 動作由主詞 one 發起,所以優先考慮不定詞 (OK)
if the deal were not to be concluded 與未來相反的假設語氣 (OK)
that = agreement
(B) they = investors? investers + Bank?; agreement 和 provision 不同類, i.e. including 意思不合理; 假設語氣動詞應該是 were
(C) 有這種句型嗎?
them = investors? investers + Bank? (by them 似乎多餘, 再者簽署合約通常有兩方,一方簽字合理嗎?)
(D) no one 動詞應該用單數; it = Bank 改變句意; with... included--> redundancy
(E) 不需要進行式

[dibert8]

{Not one of the potential investors is expected to make an offer to buy First Interstate Bank until a merger agreement is signed that includes a provision for penalties} if the deal were not to be concluded.
i.e. 把 No one... until... 看成一句, if... 是它的副詞子句.

[dibert8]

請問一下,什麼是 TTGWD?

[ggethan]

很謝謝你的回答^^

ttgwd就是濤濤31回的gwd 大陸人都這樣講
討論的人好像沒那麼多 不過聽說題目最完整 所以我才下載來做

另外我在大陸那邊也po了這題 他們的回答是(c)中的be是省了(should),如果這樣講（ｃ）就通了

但是我怎麼找都找不到假設法可以省should的,最多就是看到省if,

這點還需各位提供看法囉＾＾

[ggethan]

TO dibert8大:

如果選(a)的話 if the deal were...前面的主要子句應該有would/should/could/might才符合未來假設法的句型吧

所以cd上才說(c)是省了should,如此一來便解釋的通了

[Frankts]

在劉振民語法上看到的 和大家分享一下
如果下列動詞表示判斷 推測 建議 命令和 要求 則省略should
舉例 advise demand require insist motion recommend suggest
mandate order
不過他沒有提到expect 或許這也是一個吧 因為可能有推測的意思
希望大家在幫忙補充囉

[ggethan]

TO Frankts大:

我原本也認為是不是因為有表假設語氣的動詞才會讓後面用be

但是照你這樣說應該是expect that S+V(原形)才對 而且that不能省略

但(c)原型動詞(be)出現在副詞子句中 怪

我就是看不出來為什麼要用be,好像只有省略should才解釋的通,但偏偏文法書上又找不到這樣的省略規則...

[dibert8]

S1 would +V1... if S2 were to +V2... 表示整句都與未來事實相反.
如果只有 if 子句與事實相反,那麼就子句用假設語氣;主要子句為事實,用直述語氣.

表示"堅持"意思的動詞,會用這樣的句型: ... that S + (should) 原形V; 因為"堅持"已經有 should 的意思(i.e.堅持應該如何...), 所以 should 多餘,一定要省略.
但是 expect 沒有"堅持"的意思,不知為何套用這個句型? 而且是套用在副詞子句?

[kotokolin]

報告大家!
我查了longman，發現expect居然也有demand的意思，所以就可以解釋為何這裡should被省略了
-to demand that someone does something because it is a duty or seems reasonable

expect something from somebody
ex-The officer expects complete obedience from his troops.

expect somebody to do something
ex-I can't expect her to be on time if I'm late myself.

expect a lot of somebody/expect too much of somebody (=think someone can do more than may be possible)
ex-The school expects a lot of its students.

[ggethan]

To dibert8:
--如果只有 if 子句與事實相反,那麼就子句用假設語氣;主要子句為事實,用直述語氣--

你的這個假設法的解釋贊ㄟ 這樣就可以解釋(a)是正確答案了

原文:沒有任何一個潛在的投資人可以買下FIB直到簽署了一個併購合約,這個合約裡包括(如果未來交易失敗)的罰金規定

這樣好像就說的通了,只有if子句表假設,而這個合約的內容是事實,所以用直述法

To:kotokolin
謝謝你還上longman查
但是若expect真的用假設法,be還是不應該出現在until之後ㄚ,@@

[elmer0901]

這題答案應是A不是C
個人見解為:
1.if 後面絶對不會出現was,
即使是直述句應只會出現現在式,
故BD可刪除
2.主詞是單數,故E刪掉
3.只剩AC決選,但我選A
因為by them是誰?有點太籠統
且with修飾agreement會變成是附帶伴隨provision,好像是二者東西是分開
但A是agreement由that includes修飾,其意思是agreement包含...
變成provision屬於在agreement裡面
另外expect若和require, suggest有那種要求意思的話,
則應馬上接that (should) be singned....
但C選項並沒有,
所以動詞出現be就是感覺怪!

[A級垂耳兔]

答案是A...選C可能是聽補習班老師在鬼扯...看IF條件子句的主要子句對誰句意邏輯正確就是了...選C完全是看不出關係...選B更不可能...表目的用to...考到爛了...

[ggethan]

To all:
謝謝大家的回覆 那應該就確定答案是(a)了, GWD的答案真的很多都有問題, 不上來跟大家討論可能就這樣錯下去@@