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OG(11th) 15

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OG(11th) 15

帖子kotokolin » 2007-07-17 23:17

15. The Iroquois were primarily planters, but supple­menting their cultivation of maize, squash, and beans with fishing and hunting.

(A) but supplementing
(B) and had supplemented
(C) and even though they supplemented
(D) although they supplemented
(E) but with supplementing



答案D
怪了, 找老半天沒找到這題, 希望沒有重複post文

可以看出題目前後有對比的意思,所以用and 當連接詞,這樣就可以刪去(B)和(C)
(E) but with的用法很奇怪, 所以也可以快速刪去

關於A和D我掙扎了許久, OG的解釋讓我很頭疼:^)
(A)OG原文居然說分詞通常是要解釋主句, 延伸主句的意思, 但這裡需要對比(所以說分詞不好?!)
接下來又說 but引導的句子讓前後兩句內容一樣重要, 只有although引導的從屬子句才能表現出補充說明主句的感覺....

想請教大家but 和although的不同
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帖子la-vie » 2007-07-17 23:48

用中文其實就可以知道兩著不一樣了吧?!
but:但是
although:雖然

另外
but和and都是對等連接詞=>前後兩個句子是並行的,一樣重要的
although、while是從屬連接詞=>也就是說"從句是延續主句的句意"
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帖子kotokolin » 2007-07-17 23:58

哇哇哇~感謝樓上快速的回覆 :laugh

所以這題的考點在於but和although之間的選擇, 關於OG說的"分詞"延伸說明應該是來亂的吧!

請容我把另一題拉出來和這個一起討論...讓我對這兩個連接詞有多一點feeling~
想請教大家是如何判斷是要對等還是從屬子句?

GWD23-23
After several years of rapid growth, the healthy care company became one of the largest health care providers in the metropolitan area, while it then proved unable to handle the increase in business, falling months behind in its payment to doctors and hospitals.

A.while it then proved unable to handle the increase in business, falling months behind in its payment to
B.while it then proved unable to handle the increase in business and fell months behind in its payment to
C.but then it proved unable to handle the increase in business, falling months behind in its paying
D.but then proving unable to handle the increase in business, falling months behind in paying
E.but then proved unable to handle the increase in business, falling months behind in paying

答案E
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帖子kotokolin » 2007-07-18 00:23

剛休息一下突然豁然開朗~~~原來如此呀~~~

腦袋不靈光, 兩題放在一起突然就發現其實還蠻容易了解的 :PP
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帖子dibert8 » 2007-07-18 11:52

覺得 OG 解釋的方向不大對勁: The participle supplementing would normally be expacted to modify the first clause, describing or extending its meaning, but the logic of this sentence demands a contrast, not an extension.

but 是對等連接詞,不知道它要怎麼跟 "modify the first clause" 扯上關係? (i.e. 想到哪裡去了?)
因此 OG 在 (A) 的解釋延續下去: The construction using supplementing fails to support the intended meaning of the sentence (用ㄠ的?反正它不對.)
可能是沒看到 but, 直接看到 supplementing 以為是現在分詞修飾前面句子.

把 (A) 的句子還原: but (the Iroquois were) supplementing... 1. 過去進行式時態不合理; 2. supplementing 沒有平衡的對象.

OG: 修飾?@#?&*?!? 不知道是從哪一根神經冒出來的.這讓我覺得自己也不太靈光了.
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帖子vantreal » 2007-07-18 19:47

OG: The participle supplementing would normally be expacted to modify the first clause, describing or extending its meaning, but the logic of this sentence demands a contrast, not an extension.

我想OG的解釋是:
當我們平時看到 S+V+O, Ving.
Ving 的function就是修飾前面S+V+O 整件事,
但是in this case,
supplementing 並不是要修飾 were planters.

以句意來看是有constrast 的效果 (前面是講種菜的人, 後面講打獵捕魚).

而且用but Ving 的效果很奇怪.
ie) I am a student, but working most of the time.
如果能平行使用的話, 可能會好一點.
ie) I am a student, but I work most of the time.

希望我的解釋沒有誤...... :PP
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帖子la-vie » 2007-07-18 23:39

嗯~我喜歡樓上的說法
分詞擺句尾,表示伴隨的狀況或結果
修飾前面整件事情

附上一題prep破解版的筆記
SC1-97
Industrialization and modern methods of insect control have improved the standard of living around the globe while at the same time they have introduced some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants, having gone virtually unregulated since they were developed more than 50 years ago.

(A) while at the same time they have introduced some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants, having
(B) while at the same time introducing some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants that have
(C) while they have introduced some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants at the same time, which have
(D) but introducing some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants at the same time that have
(E) but at the same time introducing some 100,000 dangerous chemical pollutants, having
Ans:B

D: but不能引導條件狀語從句
注意:
2、 條件狀語從句的省略
When/while(時間)/if/unless(條件)/even though/even if/although(即使)/once+名詞/形容詞/完整句
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OG的解釋應該是幫助想入非非的人

帖子lucyyeh » 2007-07-20 01:54

OG講的沒有錯The participle supplementing would normally be expacted to modify the first clause, describing or extending its meaning, but the logic of this sentence demands a contrast, not an extension.

OG的解釋就是為了釐清考生對於participle運用的概念

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多讀幾遍OG果然還是有必要的
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帖子toycha » 2007-12-05 16:54

想請問C選項的OG後半段的解釋:and even though creates a sentence fragment
我知道接and錯,但說它接and even though會造成句子破碎,我不太懂...
我的想法是如果and even though會造成句子破碎,那為什麼正確選項D的although也是連接詞,就不會造成句子破碎呢??

請各位幫幫忙八~謝謝
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帖子dibert8 » 2007-12-08 18:39

{and} {even though} ... 的 and 和 even though 同時要連接前面的主要子句,情形就像一串分詞片語同時要修飾一個主詞.
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帖子nemolee » 2008-02-25 09:20

kotokolin \$m[1]:哇哇哇~感謝樓上快速的回覆 :laugh

所以這題的考點在於but和although之間的選擇, 關於OG說的"分詞"延伸說明應該是來亂的吧!

請容我把另一題拉出來和這個一起討論...讓我對這兩個連接詞有多一點feeling~
想請教大家是如何判斷是要對等還是從屬子句?

GWD23-23
After several years of rapid growth, the healthy care company became one of the largest health care providers in the metropolitan area, while it then proved unable to handle the increase in business, falling months behind in its payment to doctors and hospitals.

A.while it then proved unable to handle the increase in business, falling months behind in its payment to
B.while it then proved unable to handle the increase in business and fell months behind in its payment to
C.but then it proved unable to handle the increase in business, falling months behind in its paying
D.but then proving unable to handle the increase in business, falling months behind in paying
E.but then proved unable to handle the increase in business, falling months behind in paying

答案E


看到這裡,好像思路還是斷了

上面說 but / and 是指前後兩句是同等重要的地位
although / while 是用來延續主句的說明 ->從屬子句..

我也在想怎麼分出這是要用對等? 還是要用從屬?
是要看句意嗎? 我分不出來
請高手指點..
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帖子ilovecushi » 2008-02-28 13:04

同問

請問要如何分辨從屬 跟對等呢?
planters and supplemented 對等 可以理解
但是GWD這題 總覺得while 好像也可以耶

先謝謝大家幫忙了!

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帖子nemolee » 2008-02-28 22:25

總算有人跟我一樣的困擾

but / and 是指前後兩句是同等重要的地位
although / while 是用來延續主句的說明 ->從屬子句..

在什麼情況可以分出這是要用對等(but / and ..) ? 還是要用從屬(although / while )? 這題的考點好像不容易分得出來,這是要確確實實的從句意看嗎?

不過好像遇到這種的就是要用句意看吧,是吧?

請高手指點..

~ 再一起 Ding 一下 :laugh
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帖子dibert8 » 2008-03-05 11:34

15. The Iroquois were primarily planters, but supple­menting their cultivation of maize, squash, and beans with fishing and hunting.
(A) but supplementing
(B) and had supplemented
(C) and even though they supplemented
(D) although they supplemented
(E) but with supplementing

這題考文法而已.
(A) (E) but 要接完整的句子
(B) 時態不一致
(C) 兩個連接詞
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