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文章DARY » 2005-03-16 03:04

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The Partheono was a church from 1204 until 1456, when Athens was taken by General Mohammed the Conqueror, the Turkish sultan, who established a mosque in the building and used the Acropolis as a fortress.

(A) who established a mosque in the building and used the Acropolis as
(B) Who, estabilshed a mosque in the building used the Acropolis like
(C) who, when he had established a mosque in the building, used the Acropolis like
(D) who had established a mosque in the building using the Acropolis to be
(E) establishing a mosque in the building and using the Acropolis as

OG解答中說E, establishing and using modify Athens, thus producing an absurd statement
要怎樣看establishing 是修飾Athens啊??[/u]
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文章Calvin » 2005-03-16 03:47

Principally, participal does not modify the preceding noun when it put the bottom of the sentence.

so, in this case, "establishing and using" does not modify the nearest noun " conqueror " but the subject " Athens ".

actually, I take notes about this point. If I have time, I love to share my notes w/ you guys.

FYI
有一些無聲的話語,只有尋夢的人,彼此才聽得懂
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文章ian » 2005-03-16 15:41

這是og中常考的分詞結構,我在筆記中發現有
49, 100, 113, 120E, 163, 178, 185, 253, 259
這都是一致或類似的考題
請搭配參考:
句尾要是改分詞,大都是形容主要子句最後一個名詞
要不就是指代整句
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文章tapow » 2005-11-18 18:58

那為什麼會producing an absurd statement 呢??
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文章meefoo » 2006-03-15 14:16

因為who established a mosque... and used the Acropolis本是形容鄰接的名詞the Conqueror, the Turkish sultan -> 征服者建造....
E改成establishing and using就變成形容原句主詞Athens -> 雅典建造... -> 不合理的陳述 (an absurd statement)

這就是莫老所說的: 非限定用法不能改成省略子句
who前面有, -> 非限定形容緊鄰的N -> 不可改省略子句

有錯請指教囉~
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文章ck1109 » 2006-05-07 13:45

meefoo \$m[1]:因為who established a mosque... and used the Acropolis本是形容鄰接的名詞the Conqueror, the Turkish sultan -> 征服者建造....
E改成establishing and using就變成形容原句主詞Athens -> 雅典建造... -> 不合理的陳述 (an absurd statement)

這就是莫老所說的: 非限定用法不能改成省略子句
who前面有, -> 非限定形容緊鄰的N -> 不可改省略子句

有錯請指教囉~



不過這個規則好像也不是絕對的
像是

og # 249
Bluegrass musician Bill Monroe, whose repertory, views on musical collaboration, and vocal style were influential on generations of bluegrass artists. was also an inspiration to many musicians, that included Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia. whose music differed significantly from his own.

(A)were influential on generations of bluegrass artists, was also an inspiration to many musicians, that included Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, whose music differed significantly from

(B)influenced generations of bluegrass artists, also inspired many musicians, including Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, whose music differed significantly from

(C)was influential to generations of bluegrass artists, was also inspirational to many musicians, that included Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, whose music was different significantly in comparison to

(D)was influential to generations of bluegrass artists, also inspired many musicians, who included Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, the music of whom differed significantly when compared to

(E)were an influence on generations of bluegrass artists, was also an inspiration to many musicians, including Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, whose music was significantly different from that of


選項(B)中也是類似的狀況
但卻是正確答案
所以這應該也是少用而非絕對錯吧
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文章dibert8 » 2007-02-12 05:07

OG249 (B) 是限定用法吧!
..., also inspired many musicians, including Elvis ... = , also inspired many musicians that included Elvis ... 請指教!
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文章dibert8 » 2007-02-12 05:08

OG249: repertory, views on musical collaboration, and vocal style 應該用複數動詞, 刪除 (C) (D); that 不能用於非限定方式, 刪除 (A); 剩下 (B) (E) 比較長短 => (B)
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文章tristan » 2007-08-14 23:38

剛剛和讀書會朋友討論的結果
The Partheono was a church from 1204 until 1456, when Athens was taken by General Mohammed the Conqueror, the Turkish sultan, who established a mosque in the building and used the Acropolis as a fortress.

(E) establishing a mosque in the building and using the Acropolis as

如果把was taken在加上E答案的兩個動詞,就成了
Athens was taken....,Conqueror, the turkish sultan, establishing....and using............

如此一來就變成Athens做這三個動作了
所以答案(e)的解釋說Establishing and using illogically modify Athens.

有錯誤請指教 :smile
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文章kotokolin » 2007-08-15 12:49

樓上說的沒錯, 分詞可以修飾主句的主詞 或是修飾前面那一句伴隨的狀態,
另一個講法是, 分詞和關代的不同, 是可以不修飾最近的名詞
所以OG才會說E的establishing是Athens 的動作

只要不要誤以為是Athens was establishing and using(過去進行式) ..就ok啦~
因為這裡的establishing 是establised變來的, 只是因為主動所以改成Ving形式
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文章hwatai » 2007-10-28 13:29

E的缺陷,在於改分詞後有兩個問題

第一個如前述,改分詞後,動詞行為者指涉不清

第二個是改分詞後,原本過去式的表達不見了
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文章pimi » 2007-10-29 01:35

只是感到狐疑的是Athens應該不會自己establish跟use吧,為何會有指涉不清的問題呢????
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文章dibert8 » 2007-10-30 10:47

也有可能是 Partheono
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文章pimi » 2008-04-29 19:23

在OG解釋中說到, D includes the unidiomatic construction "using x to be y."
依照正確答案A所寫的used the Acropolis as a fortress
所以可以得到use x as y的片語才是對的

請問大大我這樣看是對的嗎??
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