想念US Top20,結果沒上? 想花兩百多萬就拿到學位?請入內

[modern]

基於本年度申請者再度爆發,大家互相殺伐最後很多人都念不到心儀學校
馬登我特因此發文,提供另一個管道讓大家參考.

大家應該不太清楚, UT-Austin有跟七間商學院簽訂dual degree協議,意即在母校修讀一年後,再到Austin修讀第二年,則可以領有兩地學位.盡享雙校資源. 反之先在Austin後到partner school亦然.

其中Austin在亞洲區partner的兩間學校,一間是我的母校CUHK,香港中文大學.另一間則是北京大學-光華管理學院PKU. 兩間都在local極富資源,並為中國的外企所認可.

如果妳/你是我標題中所描述的人
1. Gmat有個660以上
2. 工作經驗有個三年以上
3. 還不知道申請結果,但很怕自己在拼殺中敗陣
4. 但是"今年"一定要去念MBA,實在等不及明年
5. 想省錢

我會建議你,快點申請
CUHK, ( www.baf.cuhk.edu.hk/mba )
或是PKU (www.gsm.pku.edu.cn )
前者是以MBA申請方式申請即可, 後者則要通過台生專用的考試. (trust me, it's piece of cake for you guys who were graduated from NTU, NCCU, NTHU, NCTU...etc)

你的benefit如下:
1.第二年到Austin念,屬於正式學生,享有所有權限,學位...etc 總之跟念兩年的幾乎一樣,只是少了在美國的summer intern
2.幾乎提出雙學位申請的都會上.當然,去年是第一屆的合作,我也只能以去年的結果來說幾乎提出雙學位的都會上.另外,這些人的水平都挺不錯. (編按:黑體自部分是原文發文後24hrs內新增,以避免不必要的誤會.　這年頭事情都要說清楚講明白...不然很容易演變成馬囧vs謝小夫,有理說不清) 因為他不佔基本學生名額.去年我們學校去了三個.
3.Austin是Finance/marketing/op mgt都很好的學校.IT的雇主有Dell, HP, 德州的金融中心則在Dallas..幾乎每間雇主都會到Austin徵人.
4.第一年省錢,不論學費或是living cost都低的多.整體算下來你至少可以省一百萬,還可以多拿一個學位!
5.不想在美國就業,還可以回香港/中國..靠母校的network/career resource找工作

Hey各位傷咖的兄弟姊妹,如果你現在心存疑惑,但又認同我的觀點.請快點上網申請入學吧.別遲疑,遲疑就來不及了.　　今年申請暴增是真的,今年很競爭也是真的,如果你放眼M7...那就別考慮我這想法.　但如果你瞄準的是Top20, Top30,
我是真的覺得此方法極佳.　

(其實我當初就是打著這想法進中大的.不過後來intern跟full time都很順利找到所以我就放棄去Austin的機會了. )

PS.
另外想去法國的可以考慮HEC.來中大念才有HEC的Dual degree program喔 :)
PS2.我覺得每一家MBA都該找我當marketing director...我比他們花錢招的還會pitch candidates的多太多, sigh

[Jason Lee]

This duel MBA program is awesome. Many Asian students would be benefited from this program.

However, this duel program might have negative impacts on University of Texas at Austin’s local or world images and reputations. We all know that public MBA programs are working very hard to squeeze any possible revenue to maintain their faculties. Basically, public universities just cannot outbid salaries provided by private universities such as Harvard or Stanford. In the past, many public MBA programs even mentioned to close their regular MBA programs and to only operate their EMBA programs since EMBA programs are more lucrative. I am surprised and did not expect an elite MBA program such as UTA would go that desperate to generate incomes.

If what Modern mentioned were true that everyone applies would be able to get in and eventually receive a degree from UTA (which I also believe is true), then what is the value of going to the regular MBA at UTA. You worked hard on your GMAT, essays, and your application because in the US, applicants are very competitive. When you gratefully go to UTA in fall, you see your duel degree classmates who possible could not get into the regular MBA are sitting besides you. How can you justify your efforts? What kind of image are those duel degree students going to bring to your friends or to your future employers when they share how easy they get into UTA?

I understand that business schools are going to do what they have to do for their survivals. I would be the first one to take advantages of this program. Why not? Honestly, I cannot compete with those regular UTA applicants, but I would love to have a UTA diploma hanging on my wall. Thank you Modern for sharing this wonderful information.

By the way, does UCLA have a similar program too?

[bailey]

這裡面太多假設, 暫且不提, 我只提一點: Justify 這個投資的方式, 除了同學素質以外, 還有很多.

很多MBA program 像是cookie cutting machine 每年產出數百名畢業生, 很多Fortune 500也大量招收MBA, 但各自的前途如何, 我相信個案探討對大多數的人較有意義.

[modern]

I never mentioned about "everyone is admitted" :)
I said "Almost everyone" can be admitted was because they are all very talented ones.

One of them was from a famous Ibank, used to be a analysist in IBD dep.
Another was a consultant from one of Big 4.
And another was a seasoned reporter for 5+ yrs.

Actually many of my classmates are qualified for US Top 20s, even 15s. Some even got offers from those schools but choose to study in CUHK. This case does not only apply to CUHK, but also apply to HKUST and CEIBS. The story is, the US B-school dominance is not dissapeared, but getting weaker, while some great/talented candidates, for different reasons ( ROI, family, China opportunity, etc), choose to stay in GC for their MBAs. Their bright recruiting record gradually push up the international ranking and the exposure, and then attract even more new comers. That's what is happening now.

BTW, the admitted/applications rate of CU is around 30%. Adcoms paid more attention on selecting candidates so it will become less easy to get in. Everyone gotta be hurry if you want to apply for my school :D

[Jason Lee]

Come on…we don’t have to play words. We aren’t lawyers, are we? I am sure they are all talented. 30% acceptance rate seems to be very low. It would be more helpful to see who those applicants are, wouldn’t it. I am sure that Harvard’s low acceptance rate is not due to whole bunch applicants with GMAT score lower than 550.

I agree with many MBA programs are like cookie cutting machines. We should look for each unique individual case. Since it is unique individual case, this means what happens to him/her doesn’t necessary mean will happen to me. Well…then what are the uses of the individual cases? I am confused.

To Modern: I hope you could answer my question that you have deliberately avoided for many times. Will you receive a formal degree from UCLA for the exchange program? I will greatly appreciate if you could answer it.

[mole]

好心沒好報~ 呵呵~

[Jason Lee]

Please don’t take me wrong. I do feel what Modern provided is extremely useful from the bottom of my heart. I am actually the one that is pulling down the statistic. All I am saying is it is a great opportunity for me, but maybe it is not so cool for those current regular two year MBA students at UTA.

[modern]

Answers for your Qs:

An exchange is an exchange. You will study for a quarter or a semester in one of the partner schools. CUHK/UST/CEIBs have around 30 to 50 exchange partners all around the world. And you can experience something different from your original school. As for career resources, it depends on each school's own policy. Some open 100% for exchange students, some don't.

UT Austin's dual degree is a dual degree program. It's totally different from exchange.

And I don't think any one would consider an exchange as a degree. It's a common sense :)
How can one study for 3 or 4 months get a degree?

Did I answered your question?

[Jason Lee]

Thank you Modern. That did clarify my question. There are many fancy MBA programs providing degrees from elite MBA schools. Personally, I am more into buying a MBA diploma from an elite school. EMBA programs are too expensive for me; otherwise, those EMBA offered in China by top US universities are very attracting. That’s why I am so eager to gather other alternative possibilities.

Again, thank you for your time and your patient.

[nelsonhsieh]

Really hope and appreciate that people could response questions gently because no one has obligation to share information here.

[Jason Lee]

100% agreed with nelsonhsieh’s statement. People should respect other people’s privacy. Private information would include, but not limited to, personal background, GMAT score, TOEFL score, work experience, and other personal information. We should reduce, if not stop, asking people private information if they didn’t share it at the first time.

On the other hand, public information, such as the one Modern just shared, should be encouraged. Public information would be newly developed MBA degrees, dual degrees, or exchange programs. They are all public assessable information. Although public information is open to anyone, not everyone would be aware of the information. Providing new public information would definitely help perspective MBA students in terms of searching future schools.

Thank you, nelsonhsieh, for your suggestion, and it would be more helpful if you could post it right under when perspective people ask admitted person to share his/her personal background. Now, let’s give this posting back to those who are interested in CUHK/UTA program.