GWD4-Q2

[QQcandy]

Q2:
In Greek theology the supreme being was Esaugetu Emissee (Master of Breath), who dwelt in an upper realm in which the sky was the floor, and who had the power to give and to take away the breath of life.

A. in which the sky was the floor, and who had the power to give and to take

B. where the sky was the floor, having the power to give and to take

C. whose floor was the sky, and who has the power of giving and of taking

D. in which the sky was the floor, with the power of giving and taking
E. whose floor was the sky, having the power to give and take

the correct answer is A, 請問為啥 floor 跟 and 中間為啥要多加一個逗點, 我找不到三個可以平衡吶....

還有 WITH 的用法怎麼用....為啥 D 不對

[Moloch]

首先...
floor前面加個逗點是因為前面是插入句修飾Esaugetu Emissee ....

再者...
d中with的用法有歧義的嫌疑...
既可修飾Esaugetu Emissee .....也可修飾floor...
所以不選..

[illuna]

請教為什麼B的having不對??

會發生ambiguity嗎??

還有原題中and似乎用得不對.....若您說who雙逗號是插入句（我百分之百認同）....那and到底平衡哪兩個呢?

[Moloch]

這題a選項中逗點後面的and是平衡who....,and who....兩個子句
同時修飾Esaugetu Emissee
而因為這裡的逗點是插入句的逗點...
所以不應視為 ,and 要平衡三個...

至於b選項...
的確如illuna兄所說會有歧義的問題
既可修飾Esaugetu Emissee ...也可修飾floor...
所以不選它囉~ ;)

[illuna]

這題a選項中逗點後面的and是平衡who....,and who....兩個子句
同時修飾Esaugetu Emissee
而因為這裡的逗點是插入句的逗點...
所以不應視為 ,and 要平衡三個...

至於b選項...
的確如illuna兄所說會有歧義的問題
既可修飾Esaugetu Emissee ...也可修飾floor...
所以不選它囉~ ;)

1.我常常在這裡搞不清楚....到底句意如果明顯可以知道例如floor不可能有power to do這件事情那省略關代是不是還是會造成歧義呢?因為我看了好多題有的說可以省有的說不行.... :(

2.既然Mo兄說and前面的逗號是插入句....且and平衡兩個who子句....那插入句後面的那個逗號為什麼還需要加呢?我的意思是兩個who的子句都是做Esaugetu Emissee的非限定用法對吧...因為您說and平衡who子句的呀....

[魚]

Q2:
In Greek theology the supreme being was Esaugetu Emissee (Master of Breath), who dwelt in an upper realm in which the sky was the floor, and who had the power to give and to take away the breath of life.

A. in which the sky was the floor, and who had the power to give and to take

B. where the sky was the floor, having the power to give and to take

C. whose floor was the sky, and who has the power of giving and of taking

D. in which the sky was the floor, with the power of giving and taking
E. whose floor was the sky, having the power to give and take

the correct answer is A, 請問為啥 floor 跟 and 中間為啥要多加一個逗點, 我找不到三個可以平衡吶....

還有 WITH 的用法怎麼用....為啥 D 不對

QQ jj棒棒耶 ~ 我今天才趕完上[/b]週進度 :P (噓...不要告訴別人喔)

這道題, 於是醬做的
1. A / D決選
D 中 的 , with the power of giving and taking
犯了 1. OG上 樹瀨的腳那到題的錯誤 2. the power of giving and taking 用的不好 ,

不管逗號的問題 , 還是選得出A

B > where 不若un which 佳 , having 的修飾對象歧異 跟 D with 的毛病一樣

C > whose 錯的太離譜了 , 後面 the power of giving and of taking 除了D 提
到麼毛病外, of 也沒有提出 ~ 醜 !!!

E > 該錯的前幾項都錯了

至於A 的 阿EE [b] ,who ....., and who.....

要加逗號實在是不得已的啦 ~
第一個 ,是為了非限定用法
如果第二個, 去掉
句型變成 阿EE , who..... and who .... 就沒有辦法確認第二個逗號是不是非限定用法了 <因為沒有 逗號可提公因式 的規則>
然後

如果and 去掉 變成==> 阿EE , who..... , who.....

這樣狠可怕 ! 第二個who 代替的到底是誰 ? 一不小心就會有 "火山再信紙裡爆發" 的ambiguity 出現啦 ~


=== 一個帖回了15分鐘 !! 今天的quota 用完啦 :'(

[游客]

In my opnion
1.have the power~=>sbject should be pepole
so B,E should be expunged because "having~" modify floor or sky.
2.D: with~=>it's too far to describe Esaugetu Emissee
3.C:whose floor was the sky=>change meaning

[QQcandy]

Q2:
In Greek theology the supreme being was Esaugetu Emissee (Master of Breath), who dwelt in an upper realm in which the sky was the floor, and who had the power to give and to take away the breath of life.

A. in which the sky was the floor, and who had the power to give and to take

B. where the sky was the floor, having the power to give and to take

C. whose floor was the sky, and who has the power of giving and of taking

D. in which the sky was the floor, with the power of giving and taking
E. whose floor was the sky, having the power to give and take

the correct answer is A, 請問為啥 floor 跟 and 中間為啥要多加一個逗點, 我找不到三個可以平衡吶....

還有 WITH 的用法怎麼用....為啥 D 不對

QQ jj棒棒耶 ~ 我今天才趕完上[/b]週進度 :P (噓...不要告訴別人喔)

這道題, 於是醬做的
1. A / D決選
D 中 的 , with the power of giving and taking
犯了 1. OG上 樹瀨的腳那到題的錯誤 2. the power of giving and taking 用的不好 ,

不管逗號的問題 , 還是選得出A

B > where 不若un which 佳 , having 的修飾對象歧異 跟 D with 的毛病一樣

C > whose 錯的太離譜了 , 後面 the power of giving and of taking 除了D 提
到麼毛病外, of 也沒有提出 ~ 醜 !!!

E > 該錯的前幾項都錯了

至於A 的 阿EE [b] ,who ....., and who.....

要加逗號實在是不得已的啦 ~
第一個 ,是為了非限定用法
如果第二個, 去掉
句型變成 阿EE , who..... and who .... 就沒有辦法確認第二個逗號是不是非限定用法了 <因為沒有 逗號可提公因式 的規則>
然後

如果and 去掉 變成==> 阿EE , who..... , who.....

這樣狠可怕 ! 第二個who 代替的到底是誰 ? 一不小心就會有 "火山再信紙裡爆發" 的ambiguity 出現啦 ~


=== 一個帖回了15分鐘 !! 今天的quota 用完啦 :'(

ㄣ...Fish mei mei...

Got it with thanks....你的 comma 解法粉讚 !!!

[QQcandy]

In my opnion
1.have the power~=>sbject should be pepole
so B,E should be expunged because "having~" modify floor or sky.
2.D: with~=>it's too long to describe Esaugetu Emissee
3.C:whose floor was the sky=>change meaning

Mike, I don't understand your point of D ==> it's too long to describe E.E...===> was that meant "too far " ???

[illuna]

我想他意思是with跟要修飾的對象Esaugetu Emissee 離得太遠....

應該是這樣唄.....

[QQcandy]

hmm...i guess so..

[游客]

sorry, I use the wrong word.
You are right, QQ.

[agk99]

魚真是厲害，沒話說，我們還得再加油

[agk99]

To iLLUna
看到你問的問題，我突然有一個靈感，就是having不論是在and have PP改分詞(取代連接詞)，或是關代改分詞(who have pp)，或是像這一題，就是 having的組成有太多可能，更有修飾歧異的問題，所以好像都不選的情況多耶
這只是我心中隱約的一個感覺，不知是否說的通

[魚]

HI 又是我 ~ 這兩天版版好像流行 禮貌運動耶 ( 我也要給他來一下)

1. 大家一直 重複 關代跟分詞的修飾問題 ,我找了幾個帖來看

發現 mike大大的觀念最清楚 , 強力建議大家跟mike討論關代

<因為mike對本題 B 的解釋唷 ~ 就是我想說的 ,看來我的表達能力真是差
人家一行就說完了 殘念>

2. agk gg , having 啊 對的機率狠滴

牽涉到了 having如果被誤解為進行式的時候 就會變成 "一直有"
ex . i am having bra bra bra......
因為 考的是修辭學 ,所以向這類容易被誤會的字詞 ,ETS 就會比較不愛
類似的字還有 dying 雖然有垂死的意思 ,但也可以誤會成 "一直死"
醬狠可怕 !

以上 請指正.................................................(走前不忘禮貌一下 :P )