[問題]GWD-2-11 (V)

[reohuang]

Question 11:

Many people suffer an allergic reaction to certain sulfites, including those that are commonly added to wine as preservatives. However, since there are several wine makers who add sulfites to none of the wines they produce, people who would like to drink wine but are allergic to sulfites can drink wines produced by these wine makers without risking an allergic reaction to sulfites. Which of the following is an assumption
on which the argument depends?

A.These wine makers have been able to duplicate the preservative effect produced by adding sulfites by means that do not involve adding any potentially allergenic substances to their wine.
B.Not all forms of sulfite are equally likely to produce the allergic reactions.
C.Wine is the only beverage to which sulfites are commonly added.
D.Apart from sulfites, there are no substances commonly present in wine that give rise to an allergic reaction.
E.Sulfites are not naturally present in the wines produced by these wine makers in amounts large enough to produce an allergic reaction in someone who drinks these wines.

好像沒人討論過這一題
有爭議的選項部分為ADE
原題題意大概為:
很多人對於s這種東西會過敏(包括加在酒裡面的當防腐劑的s)
然而，因為酒商不加s到酒裡，所以對於s會過敏的人可以喝這些酒商製造的酒，不會過敏...問assumption
E:長的就很像是標準答案，說酒裡原先就不含有會產生過敏的s

但是以下兩個選項也有像答案的特質
D:除了s之外，酒裡原先就沒有其他會產生過敏的東西了
A:酒商可以用不添加s的方式製造防腐的效果

請教大家排除D.A的思路...3Q~

[reohuang]

我個人以為:
A.D乍看之下好像都有機會對

只是要在多花時間想的話
A:可有可無...不會影響推論...所以算是無關
D:題目講得是對s過敏...這邊提到的是無其他會產生過敏(非s過敏)的東西...有點離題

可是考試的時候哪來那麼多"多花時間想"啊~~~

花去太多時間還不一定對
想請教有無更好的其他判斷的思路方法
3Q3Q...

[Calvin]

我覺得你的思路很正確了

緊抓原題邏輯關係：某些酒商生產不加S的酒，所以會對S過敏的人喝這些酒就不會過敏了

如此一來，A確為無關選項，D的確是OUT OF SCOPE

至於答題速度上，我覺得唯有再熟悉對錯誤選項的排除思路應該就可以了，多熟練養成一種反射習慣，速度自然就起來了！

加油！

[davidlee0222]

重點在結論
people who would like to drink wine but are allergic to sulfites can drink wines produced by these wine makers without risking an allergic reaction to sulfites.
用水上飄看一下
who後修飾語先跳
從preduced以後都是補述酒
某些人可以喝某些酒
那些"想喝酒但對S過敏的"人
可以喝那些"沒有添加S的酒商製造的"酒

這句是結論
可是這個結論中間有蛇麼假設?
這些酒沒有添加S
但搞不好本來就有S
答案就是E
不用添加裡頭就有

A講這些不添加S的酒商
用某些替代品來當防腐劑
跟S無關
結論問的是對S過敏的人
沒有講跟替代品有何相關

D除了S沒有其他物質會使那些"對S過敏的人"造成過敏
無關
有沒有其他物質過敏
跟主軸問對S過敏無關
跟A一樣

[cocaine]

重點在結論
people who would like to drink wine but are allergic to sulfites can drink wines produced by these wine makers without risking an allergic reaction to sulfites.
用水上飄看一下
who後修飾語先跳
從preduced以後都是補述酒
某些人可以喝某些酒
那些"想喝酒但對S過敏的"人
可以喝那些"沒有添加S的酒商製造的"酒

這句是結論
可是這個結論中間有蛇麼假設?
這些酒沒有添加S
但搞不好本來就有S
答案就是E
不用添加裡頭就有

A講這些不添加S的酒商
用某些替代品來當防腐劑
跟S無關
結論問的是對S過敏的人
沒有講跟替代品有何相關

D除了S沒有其他物質會使那些"對S過敏的人"造成過敏
無關
有沒有其他物質過敏
跟主軸問對S過敏無關
跟A一樣

認同D大分析..
我覺得E最好..
E中說S不是天然產生在酒商做的酒之中,S量夠大才會對人產生過敏.
而題目有說喝酒商做的酒就不會有冒險的機會去過敏(因為S不是天然產生,喝別家的酒會有機會得到過敏,因為不管S被加量多或是量少都是各risk)

[yotoan]

[quote="reohuang"]Question 11:

Many people suffer an allergic reaction to certain sulfites, including those that are commonly added to wine as preservatives. However, since there are several wine makers who add sulfites to none of the wines they produce, people who would like to drink wine but are allergic to sulfites can drink wines produced by these wine makers without risking an allergic reaction to sulfites. Which of the following is an assumption
on which the argument depends?

A.These wine makers have been able to duplicate the preservative effect produced by adding sulfites by means that do not involve adding any potentially allergenic substances to their wine.

D.Apart from sulfites, there are no substances commonly present in wine that give rise to an allergic reaction.
E.Sulfites are not naturally present in the wines produced by these wine makers in amounts large enough to produce an allergic reaction in someone who drinks these wines.

唉..小的不才..一看到A就選了..
我對A取非是想說可以削弱結論..但最後還是大失敗!!
請教各位大大..
若我D答案改為Apart from sulfites, there are no substances commonly present in wine that give rise to an allergic reaction which is similar to S
那摸D答案就可以選了嗎??

感恩先~

[世界和平]

唉..小的不才..一看到A就選了..
我對A取非是想說可以削弱結論..但最後還是大失敗!!
請教各位大大..
若我D答案改為Apart from sulfites, there are no substances commonly present in wine that give rise to an allergic reaction which is similar to S
那摸D答案就可以選了嗎??

感恩先~

個人認為僅加了"similar"還是如前所述--無相關，因為重心還是S過敏，而非類似的過敏物質。 您的看法呢？

[cocaine]

唉..小的不才..一看到A就選了..
我對A取非是想說可以削弱結論..但最後還是大失敗!!
請教各位大大..
若我D答案改為Apart from sulfites, there are no substances commonly present in wine that give rise to an allergic reaction which is similar to S
那摸D答案就可以選了嗎??

感恩先~

個人認為僅加了"similar"還是如前所述--無相關，因為重心還是S過敏，而非類似的過敏物質。 您的看法呢？

同意大大說的..
重點是在S而不是其他物質..
所以大大加的那句最多只說明酒中有其他物質,但不能延伸去說這物質就會有害于人體,因為題目沒說.題目只說S對人體有害.

[miyacco]

A確為無關選項，D的確是OUT OF SCOPE

請教一下

A 無關
B ? 無關
C ? 無關
D out of scope
E assumption

E 似乎也有 weaken 的意味... 諸位牛大大覺得勒?

[hahadog]

E 似乎也有 weaken 的意味... 諸位牛大大覺得勒?

恩～根據某位大大的說話（忘記是哪位了）
assumption本來就有點WEAKEN的味道
如果假設前提不成立的話，那整個論點也不成立了

[gaspper]

A.一定錯。因為防腐效果不是題目關心的重點
D.非常像正確答案，因為ETS 喜歡考這種 "沒有其他原因造成題目結果" 的假設題。但是，

E. 這個答案更好
考量到第一句話，
"Many people suffer an allergic reaction to certain sulfites, including those that are commonly added to wine as preservatives."
發現討論的對象是：People who suffer an allergic reaction to certain sulfites

重要的是 certain sulfites, including those that are commonly added to wine as preservatives." 言外之意是還有其他Sulfites 不是用作 preservatives
所以本題的假設便是在問這句話，答案 E. 正確

[mandy-lo]

請問各位大牛們:
這題我下載的GWD軟件給的答案是D,
而我也同意ans為D耶…
D選表示,除了S外,沒有其他物質在酒中會引起過敏
那不也暗示就是S會導致過敏…

原文表示: 因為酒商不加s到酒裡，所以對於s會過敏的人可以喝這些酒商製造的酒，就不會過敏,假設在以weaken方式看D選項: 表示若還有其他的物質在酒中會引起過敏,那不就表示S並非導致過敏的元兇….這就與原文完全背離了,
而d選就是證明沒有其他物質在酒中會引起過敏,除了S外,也間接證明S就是元兇與結論相符……….
以上是我按照某位大牛表示以WEANKEN來看ASSUMPTION選項


E選表示S量夠大才會對人產生過敏.,S沒有添加在這些酒商所生產的酒中,
加量多寡以及噫測:搞不好本來就有S在酒中,不用添加裡頭就有S,與結論表示不加S就不會有過敏,這E選看了頭也暈了?????????????

請大家指正我的思路….

[dibert8]

(A) adding sulfites 跟題意(add sulfites to none of the wines they produce) 牴觸
(B) 意思是加了 sulfites ?
(C) 即使如此,又如何?
(D) 題意過敏是針對 sulfites, apart from sulfites 就沒法作前提啦 (題目一開始就開宗明義 "Many people suffer an allergic reaction to certain sulfites")
(E) 酒廠沒有加 sulfites, 如果原來在酒裡的含量也不致引 起過敏,就安全啦! (反之, 如果原來在酒裡含有會引起過敏的 sulfites, 就算酒廠沒有加 sulfites, 喝了也會導致過敏啊!)
所以 (E) 比較像是答案.

[hwatai]

(E)Sulfites are not naturally present in the wines produced by these wine makers in amounts large enough to produce an allergic reaction in someone who drinks these wines.

denial test: sulfites are naturally present in the wines...立刻成為反駁選項

沒有爭議，答案一定是(E)