GWD7-4

[bear]

Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movies—less than those killed by bee stings.

A. movies—less than those
B. movies—fewer than have been
C. movies, which is less than those
D. movies, a number lower than the people
E. movies, fewer than the ones


這裡好像答案有爭議在B和E

我選E, 有人說是因為這個ones不好....請問不好在哪裡阿???
有人說ones指代也不合習慣, 請問啥時可以用ones指代 ......

再來B, 有人fewer than 後面省略people, 反而和前面的people 混淆成為同一批人...是這樣的嗎???


還是誰有新見解....提供一下吧 :(

[illuna]

我覺得問題在於B的「破折號」用的不對......

一看到首先AB就刪掉了啊...

怎麼會去爭論B跟E呢?

無論如何「破折號」跟「逗號」的用法一定會有所區別的對吧??

除非題目背錯....

再者....不定冠詞ones前面放定冠詞the....可以指代前面出現過的複數名詞....

那就是people啊....難道會以為是movies嗎??

大陸人會不會想太多?

[bear]

mm....被橘子大哥一語點醒夢中人!

同意你說的關於the ones指代....我原來也是這樣想的....被大陸人攪和昏了....

不過,為啥你這麼肯定破折號不對咧???? 不懂???



附註: 大陸人說ones 指代不清, 且說了一個啥怪定理：one 或 ones不能代前面的名詞, 除了代替one以外....... 不懂就算了, 因為我也看不懂 :|

[QQcandy]

我有一些問題請幫忙犛清 :

1. 前後逗號及破折號都是捕充說明的功用, 這裡破折號直接劃掉是不是破折號一定要有前後, 也就是只能放在句中 ?

2. ones 是不是所謂的不定代名詞 ? 可是在本題ones應該代 people 沒錯, 可是它加了 " the " 是不是表示是 "舊資訊" 代前面同一批人, 那不就錯了嗎 ? 因為死於蜜蜂攻擊及大白鯊攻擊的人並不是同一批人呀 ?? 怎麼會這樣

其實我也選 E :-$ 但還是不很清楚

[bear]

我有一些問題請幫忙犛清 :

2. ones 是不是所謂的不定代名詞 ? 可是在本題ones應該代 people 沒錯, 可是它加了 " the " 是不是表示是 "舊資訊" 代前面同一批人, 那不就錯了嗎 ? 因為死於蜜蜂攻擊及大白鯊攻擊的人並不是同一批人呀 ?? 怎麼會這樣

其實我也選 E :-$ 但還是不很清楚

關於QQ說的，加the會部會是同一批人，我想舉大全裡的一道題說....
正確選項B, 他用 the one 代替前面的sea monster, 這裡想當然爾，不會說兩各地方出現同一個水怪吧..... 8-|

489.Like the one reputed to live in Loch Ness, also an inland lake connected to the ocean by a river, inhabitants of the area around Lake Champlain claim sightings of a long and narrow “sea monster.”

(A) Like the one reputed to live in Loch Ness, also an inland lake connected to the ocean by a river, inhabitants of the area around Lake Champlain claim sightings of a long and narrow “sea monster.”

(B) Inhabitants of the area around Lake Champlain claim sightings of a long and narrow “sea monster” similar to the one reputed to live in Loch Ness, which, like Lake Champlain, is an inland lake connected to the ocean by a river.

(C) Inhabitants of the area around Lake Champlain claim sightings of a long and narrow “sea monster” similar to Loch Ness’s, which, like Lake Champlain, is an inland lake connected to the ocean by a river.

(D) Like Loch Ness’ reputed monster, inhabitants of the area around Lake Champlain, also an inland lake connected to the ocean by a river, claim sightings of a long and narrow “sea monster.”

(E) Similar to that reputed to live in Loch Ness, inhabitants of the area around Lake Champlain, also an inland lake connected to the ocean by a river, claim sightings of a long and narrow “sea monster.”

[illuna]

我有一些問題請幫忙犛清 :

1. 前後逗號及破折號都是捕充說明的功用, 這裡破折號直接劃掉是不是破折號一定要有前後, 也就是只能放在句中 ?

2. ones 是不是所謂的不定代名詞 ? 可是在本題ones應該代 people 沒錯, 可是它加了 " the " 是不是表示是 "舊資訊" 代前面同一批人, 那不就錯了嗎 ? 因為死於蜜蜂攻擊及大白鯊攻擊的人並不是同一批人呀 ?? 怎麼會這樣

其實我也選 E :-$ 但還是不很清楚

呵呵.....破折號跟前後逗點都有補充說明的功用沒錯....不過破折號跟前後逗點在當補充說明的用法應該都要「緊接著被補充說明的東西」....

例如這邊的shark後面就緊接著前後逗點的補充說明.....

在movies後面直接擺破折號就變成是補充說明movies了.....而不是seven people...

這樣可以嗎?

至於第二點熊妹妹已經幫妳找到例子說明了....請參考....;)

[QQcandy]

告訴一個會讓你從椅子上跌下來的消息, 我問了一個米國人這題答案是啥, 他居然很肯定的跟我說　C....以下是他的回信....研究研究....
＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝
I'm going with C.

Alright the first thing you can do is eliminate A & B, this is due to the fact there is an inclusion of a note (I forgot the technical term for it) that can be omitted from the sentence. The basic structure for such a note is to inclose it within 2 "," (commas)... so the note in this case is referring to "the great white sharks, the... in the movies," ... so that eliminates the options using the semi-colons ";".

The next is choosing from the remaining 3, the best way would be now to omit the 'note' since it is not necessary. Now read the remaining sentences to see which makes sense. Now without the note, all the sentences do not have a transition except for one... C (which is the transition in this case). The others wouldn't make much sense without either a break or a transition being involved.

[bear]

從米國人的講法中我們可以知道一件事....
AB破折號的確有問題

不過他忘了一件事情,less 不能拿來修飾可數的名詞阿.... 這裡用lower也不對!



請問他有考過AT嗎??? ^^ 我覺得若沒有考過AT的米國人, 文法可能有點....不過我不否認他有語感啦~~~

[QQcandy]

對呀 ....我昨天為了這些問題跟他msn一個小時, 我看我們還是忘記他說的, 因為我熊熊想到他沒考過　AT, 米國人還是有可能會錯　 :-S 　　

[agk99]

我知道QQ講的問題，特別是seven people , the ones 的問題
我的想法是，就句意來說肯定是前面人和後面人比較(不是數字比喔)，前面寫people ，當然後面也是寫 people，可能會有人認為後面的the ones的the是有出現的意思，那麼，人家都又不特定代名詞ones ，我們就也不必質疑他的 the，難不成寫fewer than ones, 當然，寫成 fewer than others或許有理一些，但沒這選項。

選 e吧，爽快一點就是E了

[魚]

[quote="bear"]Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movies—less than those killed by bee stings.

A. movies—less than those
B. movies—fewer than have been
C. movies, which is less than those
D. movies, a number lower than the people
E. movies, fewer than the ones


quote]

A/ B 錯 N- 芭拉巴拉巴拉 芭拉巴拉補充說明前面的 N 所以一定不對 (橘子大哥說滴 !)

C 錯 N , which ----選C的人要面壁 !
D 不佳-----不會用a number 通常都用 a figure 不是嗎?
E 我絕得這裡的比較級用法很奇怪耶 大家都絕得OK嗎? :-S
but the ones 是OK的
the 表限定 ones 就是那一群被叮死的人


開始期待 下一個8000塊

[Behemoth]

d選項應該是說用lower修飾number是錯誤的...

e的比較級用法ok啊....哪裡怪怪?

[QQcandy]

我知道QQ講的問題，特別是seven people , the ones 的問題
我的想法是，就句意來說肯定是前面人和後面人比較(不是數字比喔)，前面寫people ，當然後面也是寫 people，可能會有人認為後面的the ones的the是有出現的意思，那麼，人家都又不特定代名詞ones ，我們就也不必質疑他的 the，難不成寫fewer than ones, 當然，寫成 fewer than others或許有理一些，但沒這選項。

選 e吧，爽快一點就是E了

嗯　~ agk 大哥說得好　 (Y)

[QQcandy]

d選項應該是說用lower修飾number是錯誤的...

e的比較級用法ok啊....哪裡怪怪?

對呀　~ 我也覺的比較級用的....挺好的　 :P

[illuna]

我知道QQ講的問題，特別是seven people , the ones 的問題
我的想法是，就句意來說肯定是前面人和後面人比較(不是數字比喔)，前面寫people ，當然後面也是寫 people，可能會有人認為後面的the ones的the是有出現的意思，那麼，人家都又不特定代名詞ones ，我們就也不必質疑他的 the，難不成寫fewer than ones, 當然，寫成 fewer than others或許有理一些，但沒這選項。

選 e吧，爽快一點就是E了

唉大哥我知道我不應該在這個節骨眼上亂你......可是我忍不住的覺得前後比較的是被大白鯊吃掉跟被蜜蜂叮死的人的「數量」ㄟ....