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[問題]GWD3-Q34

帖子illuna » 2004-08-28 16:14

Q34:
Shoppers in sporting goods stores, unlike in department stores, do very little impulse shopping, not buying a pair of skis and a boomerang when they come in for a basketball, but they leave with a basketball only.

A. in department stores, do very little impulse shopping, not buying a pair of skis and a boomerang when they come in for a basketball, but they leave with a basketball only

B. in department stores, shop impulsively very little; someone who comes in for a basketball will leave with a basketball only and not also buy a pair of skis and a boomerang as well

C. those in department stores, do very little impulse shopping, do not buy a pair of skis and a boomerang when they come in for a basketball, but leave with only a basketball

D. those in department stores, do very little impulse shopping; someone who comes in for a basketball will leave with a basketball only and not buy a pair of skis and a boomerang as well

E. department stores, shop impulsively very little; someone will not buy a pair of skis and a boomerang when they come in for a basketball but will leave with only a basketball


答案是..D

我的問題是...到底重複的資訊(舊的資訊)到底可不可以省略?

這題就是shoppers在運動用品店跟百貨公司的比較...那shoppers到底可不可以省呢?

還有答案D沒有流水句(Run-on Sentences)的問題嗎?還是因為as well=and呢??(我竟然是對完答案才看到as well :-@ )

快救救我吧.... :-S
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帖子QQcandy » 2004-08-29 01:07

在此題, shoppers 不能省略因為 unlike 的關係, A, unlike B....A and B 比較要同類, 但因為shoppers 是舊資訊, 所以用 those 來代

另外 D 不是流水句, 因為它有加分號, 分號有連接詞的作用, 而分詞後面的第一個 and 是連接 leave 及 buy 所以平衡, 第二個and 是連接 a pair of skis 及 a boomerang所以也平衡....

但我不確定的是as well 的用法, as well 是 in addition to 的意思, 套句我的老話, 不知是否有改變句意的嫌疑...或是只是加強and 的語氣....不過我覺得 D 是裡面最好的
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帖子agk99 » 2004-08-29 01:20

as well若是放在句尾,可解為too, 也可解為also.
這裡的as well ,是指not buy a pair of skis and a boomerang,而不是單指and a boomerang
所謂流水句是指一句子有兩個以上動詞,但卻欠缺連接詞或分號切割,五個選項只有C會有問題,D不算流水句
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帖子 » 2004-08-31 15:31

我答錯了~ 天啊 !

為啥 C不行 ,我覺得D寫的真醜 ~

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帖子illuna » 2004-08-31 16:51

魚 \$m[1]:我答錯了~ 天啊 !

為啥 C不行 ,我覺得D寫的真醜 ~

help help ~


C是流水句啊....它只用逗號隔開而已.....

D有用分號隔開喔....:)
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illuna \$m[1]:
魚 \$m[1]:我答錯了~ 天啊 !

為啥 C不行 ,我覺得D寫的真醜 ~

help help ~


C是流水句啊....它只用逗號隔開而已.....

D有用分號隔開喔....:)


C. those in department stores, do very little impulse shopping, do not buy a pair of skis and a boomerang when they come in for a basketball, but leave with only a basketball

D. those in department stores, do very little impulse shopping; someone who comes in for a basketball will leave with a basketball only and not buy a pair of skis and a boomerang as well

嗯 ~ 是呀 ^^

我有注意到分號 , 不過, 現在才發現 , 我自己發明了一套規則 :
<C > do very little impulse shopping, do not buy a pair of skis and a boomerang when they come in for a basketball, but leave with only a basketball

< <類似 ,and 功能的三段平衡法 ^^>>

< D >∼and not buy a pair of skis and a boomerang as well
   <句意不佳 改成 but>

挖哈哈哈 挖走火入魔了 :-S 真糟糕

小朋友不要學喔 :-#
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帖子bugubugu » 2004-12-16 23:08

魚 \$m[1]:

<C > do very little impulse shopping, do not buy a pair of skis and a boomerang when they come in for a basketball, but leave with only a basketball

< <類似 ,and 功能的三段平衡法 ^^>>

< D >∼and not buy a pair of skis and a boomerang as well
   <句意不佳 改成 but>

挖哈哈哈 挖走火入魔了 :-S 真糟糕

小朋友不要學喔 :-#



其實我這題雖然選D
但一直覺得D不好...
因為我覺得寫成not buy a pair of skis OR a boomerang as well
會不會比較好一點阿...

另外你說的C我覺得並沒有三個平衡耶...
因為他的but因該是not....but的but...
所以第二個do not buy....前面還是要加個and才比較合理...
我覺得啦....
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帖子simommmm » 2005-04-12 21:37

illuna \$m[1]:
魚 \$m[1]:我答錯了~ 天啊 !

為啥 C不行 ,我覺得D寫的真醜 ~

help help ~


C是流水句啊....它只用逗號隔開而已.....

D有用分號隔開喔....:)


我想請問 C為什麼是流水句啊
我的想法是Shoppers為S..., unlike those...,
do(V1) very little impulse shopping, do(V2) not buy a pair of skis and a boomerang when they come in for a basketball, but leave(V3) with only a basketball

請指正 謝謝
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帖子Calvin » 2005-04-12 23:26

but 雖然是連接詞,但似乎不能做 V1, V2, but V3 這樣的結構運用

but 是轉折語氣連結詞,而一般 V1, V2, and V3 應該是語氣一致下來的,不會說 v1 blahblah...v2 blahblah,"但是" v3 blahblah...

所以C 的 but 不能當做連結三個動詞的連接詞,因此 C 的V1 V2間沒有連結接,but 前沒有主詞,故不能選!

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帖子simommmm » 2005-04-13 23:17

謝謝Calvin解釋 有清楚 我有明白
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帖子joetheking » 2005-07-19 12:26

回歸句意來看C:
do vert little impulse shopping, do not buy.., but leave with only a basketball.
翻譯:
(1)少有衝動購物的行為, (2)不會買滑雪撬和迴力棒當他們來店只為了買一顆籃球,但(3)只買一顆籃球就離開

C不能選的原因在於 放在(3)之前的逗號 把(2)(3)分開
使得兩者文意無法連結 造成文意怪異:
those in department stores.......leave with only a basketball.
那些百貨公司的購物者只買一顆籃球就離開-->文意怪異,照句意應該是要把(2)和(3)放在一起做解釋,同正解D
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帖子joetheking » 2005-07-19 12:43

Calvin \$m[1]:but 雖然是連接詞,但似乎不能做 V1, V2, but V3 這樣的結構運用

but 是轉折語氣連結詞,而一般 V1, V2, and V3 應該是語氣一致下來的,不會說 v1 blahblah...v2 blahblah,"但是" v3 blahblah...

所以C 的 but 不能當做連結三個動詞的連接詞,因此 C 的V1 V2間沒有連結接,but 前沒有主詞,故不能選!

FYI

"所以C 的 but 不能當做連結三個動詞的連接詞"
-->我對這個說法不表認同,
老道理,照文意原則,在V1 V2 but V3的結構下,V3的動作在文意上是和前面兩個相反的,在本題文意上卻不能這麼使用
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帖子Calvin » 2005-07-19 13:04

joetheking \$m[1]:回歸句意來看C:
do vert little impulse shopping, do not buy.., but leave with only a basketball.
翻譯:
(1)少有衝動購物的行為, (2)不會買滑雪撬和迴力棒當他們來店只為了買一顆籃球,但(3)只買一顆籃球就離開

C不能選的原因在於 放在(3)之前的逗號 把(2)(3)分開
使得兩者文意無法連結 造成文意怪異:
those in department stores.......leave with only a basketball.
那些百貨公司的購物者只買一顆籃球就離開-->文意怪異,照句意應該是要把(2)和(3)放在一起做解釋,同正解D


對逗號這個解釋,我認為有問題,我們常常可以看到V1, V2, and V3這樣的句型,如果and前的逗號會使得V3無法跟V2連結,那麼眾多的V1, V2, and V3例子便無法解釋了,open to discuss
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帖子Behemoth » 2005-07-19 13:30

提供另一個想法

c中的do..., do not..., but leave...

第二個do根本不是動詞,而是助動詞

所以根本也無須討論句意的問題了....單從文法上就不能接受..

況且也無V1, V2, but V3 的此種用法....
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帖子zuckzhc » 2005-07-19 13:50

joetheking \$m[1]:
Calvin \$m[1]:but 雖然是連接詞,但似乎不能做 V1, V2, but V3 這樣的結構運用

but 是轉折語氣連結詞,而一般 V1, V2, and V3 應該是語氣一致下來的,不會說 v1 blahblah...v2 blahblah,"但是" v3 blahblah...

所以C 的 but 不能當做連結三個動詞的連接詞,因此 C 的V1 V2間沒有連結接,but 前沒有主詞,故不能選!

FYI

"所以C 的 but 不能當做連結三個動詞的連接詞"
-->我對這個說法不表認同,
老道理,照文意原則,在V1 V2 but V3的結構下,V3的動作在文意上是和前面兩個相反的,在本題文意上卻不能這麼使用


我推樓上Calvin 的說法
另外關於用but當三個子句的連接詞我也有疑問
V1, V1 but V3 為何可直接說 V3 是和前面兩個相反
如果按照對等連接詞省略的原則
V1, V2, and V3是 V1 and V2 and V3的省略
那麼
V1, V2, but V3是 V1 but V2 but V3的省略才對
但是這樣的句子太過akward,所以沒人用
當然這題用句意解是可以解答的
但是我不清楚所謂 "V1 V2 but V3的結構下,V3的動作在文意上是和前面兩個相反的" 這樣的說法是來自何處
可能要看看有沒有例句或是字典可以幫助大家了解
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