[問題]OG10

由 **yehchuyuan** » 2005-08-01 08:51

10. However much United States voters may agree that there is waste in government and that the government as a whole spends beyond its means, it is difficult to find broad support for a movement toward a minimal state.
(A) However much United States voters may agree that (however 作为连词等于 although 尽管)
(B) Despite the agreement among United States voters to the fact
(C) Although United States voters agree
(D) Even though United States voters may agree
(E) There is agreement among United States voters that

雖然依平行結構關係，只剩AE要選。但是A中 much US voters, voters為可數複數名詞，不是應該用many，不可以用much，煩請各位大大解疑!!

由 **sklpeng** » 2005-08-01 10:00

much在此應是adv.修飾動詞 agree的程度
而不是您說的adj.修飾名詞voters

Open to discuss

由撥撥 » 2005-08-01 12:32

取莫老的例子：
However I agree with you very much.
very修飾much
however,much修飾agree
將much往前搬形成
However much I agree with you.

由 **hungji** » 2005-08-09 09:05

(有誤請指正)
1 快速觀察比較五答案
2 差異(1)ㄛ...However/Despite/Althouh/Even though/句子There is (2)...that/... 傷腦筋
3 回原題題意...AND 出現(救星)... 刪 B C D
4 決選 A E, 刪 E 流水句
5 勇敢選 A, A 對了, 繼續下一題

由 cg » 2005-08-09 15:35

OG10的考點有兩個
1.平衡法 agree that and that…
2.may agree 情境用語不可替代

第一次選會有困惑應該是在於不瞭解 however = no matter how
much提前的用法

供參考! 8-|

由 **cheyen** » 2005-09-15 11:08

No matter how united states voters may agree MUCH that there...

表示~美國選民多麼地同意.... 而不是說：“無論多少個選民同意”
就如之前討論的
much當作程度副詞用
這�是表示程度的修飾agree

此外之前筆記紀錄過
However many+cn(可數名詞)
However much+un(不可數名詞)
However much+svo
參考就好嚕..可不可考我也不太確定
還是要依句意判斷這題
不然還是會解錯 :smile

由 **lostfish** » 2005-10-19 00:33

Choice E, though it retains that,is grammatilcally incorrect: becuse E starts with an independent rather than a subordinate clause and separates its two independent clauses wiht a comma, it creates a run-on sentence with no logical connection established between the halves.
ETS說e是流水句，這我同意，不過 a中也有主詞動詞，however也非連接詞，這樣不也同e是流水句嗎??

由 **林小馬** » 2005-10-19 07:54

lostfish \$m[1]:Choice E, though it retains that,is grammatilcally incorrect: becuse E starts with an independent rather than a subordinate clause and separates its two independent clauses wiht a comma, it creates a run-on sentence with no logical connection established between the halves.
ETS說e是流水句，這我同意，不過 a中也有主詞動詞，however也非連接詞，這樣不也同e是流水句嗎??

A不是流水句喔

A帶入的情況
However much United States voters may agree that there is waste in government and that the government as a whole spends beyond its means, it is difficult to find broad support for a movement toward a minimal state.

這邊的However
跟"However, I still love him"(你想像中的however)的however不同

這邊的However(字典說功用是引導讓步的副詞子句)
是可以代成跟no matter how一樣
如果你搞不太懂no matter how,
也許no matter what, no matter wherer你會熟悉一點
舉例
No matter what he does, I still love him.
(= Whatever he does, I still love him.)
No matter where you go, I will go with you.
(= Wherever you go, I will go with you)
以上這些都不是流水句喔

我搞不太懂辭性啊子句啊那些什麼的
只會用舉例的
如果有人可以從修辭上講法解釋的話就幫忙一下喔

由 **lioyd** » 2006-03-05 12:06

10. However much United States voters may agree that there is waste in government and that the government as a whole spends beyond its means, it is difficult to find broad support for a movement toward a minimal state.

我想請問的是這一句話的句意?
試翻了很久，感覺還是不太懂他的意思
麻煩各位高手了^^~~~謝謝唷

由 **ubuubu** » 2006-03-22 15:31

hungji \$m[1]:(有誤請指正)
1 快速觀察比較五答案
2 差異(1)ㄛ...However/Despite/Althouh/Even though/句子There is (2)...that/... 傷腦筋
3 回原題題意...AND 出現(救星)... 刪 B C D
4 決選 A E, 刪 E 流水句
5 勇敢選 A, A 對了, 繼續下一題

為什麼看到 "AND" 就可以馬上刪除BCD?
她怎嚜救星法??
謝謝!

由 **sweetymanman** » 2006-03-22 15:57

However much United States voters may agree that there is waste in government and that

agree that.....and that.......
所以BCD錯

由 **ubuubu** » 2006-05-04 16:01

不好意思我還是有點不太懂
你的意思是說 despite although and even tho, 後面就不行用agree that.....and that....... ?

由 **raymangg** » 2006-07-13 23:46

林小馬 \$m[1]:
lostfish \$m[1]:Choice E, though it retains that,is grammatilcally incorrect: becuse E starts with an independent rather than a subordinate clause and separates its two independent clauses wiht a comma, it creates a run-on sentence with no logical connection established between the halves.
ETS說e是流水句，這我同意，不過 a中也有主詞動詞，however也非連接詞，這樣不也同e是流水句嗎??

A不是流水句喔

A帶入的情況
However much United States voters may agree that there is waste in government and that the government as a whole spends beyond its means, it is difficult to find broad support for a movement toward a minimal state.

這邊的However
跟"However, I still love him"(你想像中的however)的however不同

這邊的However(字典說功用是引導讓步的副詞子句)
是可以代成跟no matter how一樣
如果你搞不太懂no matter how,
也許no matter what, no matter wherer你會熟悉一點
舉例
No matter what he does, I still love him.
(= Whatever he does, I still love him.)
No matter where you go, I will go with you.
(= Wherever you go, I will go with you)
以上這些都不是流水句喔

我搞不太懂辭性啊子句啊那些什麼的
只會用舉例的
如果有人可以從修辭上講法解釋的話就幫忙一下喔

補充一下
however much, much as. Even though, no matter how much, as in As much as I hate to, I must stay home tonight, or However much it hurts, you ought to admit you were wrong, or Much as Karen would love to see us, she can't get out of her prior commitment. [Late 1500s]

我記得莫老師在上課中曾經說過however是副詞連接詞(Conjunctive Adverbs) , 也就是說應該當作副詞來用 .

這題的話我認為是however much在作怪

Source :
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=as%20much%20as

由 **afra_hung** » 2006-09-11 17:50

however有兩種用法:
做副詞, 表示"然而",
做連接詞, 表示"無論如何",也就是"no matter how"

由 **shmily0124** » 2007-11-01 11:16

lioyd \$m[1]:10. However much United States voters may agree that there is waste in government and that the government as a whole spends beyond its means, it is difficult to find broad support for a movement toward a minimal state.

這句話我也不太懂

請高手說明一下

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