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[問題]OG 237

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[問題]OG 237

文章hao » 2004-12-03 15:21

237. It seems likely that a number of astronomical phenomena, such as the formation of planetary nebulas, may be caused by the interaction where two stars orbit each other at close range.


(C)are because of the interaction between two stars that orbit each other

(E)are caused by the interaction of two stars orbiting each other

答案E 我知道E很不錯
可是我不明白 C錯的點
請指點
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文章agk99 » 2004-12-03 15:37

其實你這一題應該仔細看看他的解釋,寫的真是好

兩個重點提醒
一是表因果關係用are caused by 比 are because of 好
二是interaction of 比interaction between好很多
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Re: [問題]OG 237

文章訪客 » 2004-12-03 22:01

hao \$m[1]:


(C)are because of the interaction between two stars that orbit each other[/color[color=blue]]=>that限定用法,表示只有兩個star互繞,怎麼可能會只有兩個星星在互繞而已呢??很明顯邏輯錯誤


(E)are caused by the interaction of two stars orbiting each other


這題是OG很經典的限定和非限定用法的題目
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文章best555tw » 2005-08-01 21:30

a number of N 是接複數動詞
the number of N 是接單數動詞嗎
Make a decision and move on.
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文章christina » 2005-08-01 21:38

best555tw \$m[1]:a number of N 是接複數動詞
the number of N 是接單數動詞嗎


a number of..是慣用片語,很多的意思,所以是接複數
the number of N 純粹是句型,指N的數目,主詞是number接的當然是單數
:smile
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文章Pufa » 2005-08-01 21:40

Pufa \$m[1]:
我記得以前CD上的大牛有討論過這個觀念,
他們舉出很多例子之後發現a(the) number of後面可接單數或複數動詞。


經查證後發現我的印象是錯的。
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文章christina » 2005-08-01 21:46

Pufa \$m[1]:
best555tw \$m[1]:a number of N 是接複數動詞
the number of N 是接單數動詞嗎


我記得以前CD上的大牛有討論過這個觀念,
他們舉出很多例子之後發現a(the) number of後面可接單數或複數動詞。

:-#
我的觀念錯了 ;-S sorry......... :sad
a number of 和the number of 不是不一樣,
看來我得再去好好查證一下....
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文章Pufa » 2005-08-01 21:58

憑印象是很危險的....大家討論一下。

克麗斯汀是對低,
the number of是指某個數字,應該用單數(見OG23)。

number
▶AMOUNT◀
[uncountable and countable]an amount of something that can be counted
ᅳsynonym quantity

the number of something
The number of cars on our roads rose dramatically last year.

a number of something

We have been friends for a number of years.
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文章best555tw » 2005-08-01 22:58

後來看到OG238的解釋
a... number of women means a group of women, whereas the... number of women refers to an exact figure

所以應該像christina講的一樣
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文章christina » 2005-08-02 00:12

:smile
我們有再確定清楚就好了,
下回看到它就不怕了,呵呵... ;dd
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Re: [問題]OG 237

文章puthing » 2005-08-28 10:46

mikelee \$m[1]:
hao \$m[1]:


(C)are because of the interaction between two stars that orbit each other[/color[color=blue]]=>that限定用法,表示只有兩個star互繞,怎麼可能會只有兩個星星在互繞而已呢??很明顯邏輯錯誤


(E)are caused by the interaction of two stars orbiting each other


這題是OG很經典的限定和非限定用法的題目


我想請教一下

two stars that orbit each other

為什麼不能當作任意的兩顆星來說呢?

因為要orbit each other

本來就只能由兩主體(兩顆星)來完成

還是因為前面的the interaction

有指定的關係才不能用that

我看過OG解釋了

但對限定 / 非限定還是有一點小疑問

不是很明白two star that orbit two star orbiting 的差異

請大家幫忙一下

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文章puthing » 2005-08-28 13:16

剛剛回去翻了限制非限制用法的筆記

有點發現

請大家幫忙指點一下紅色的地方

當然其他地方有問題也請糾正我一下 :smile



Peter’s father who lives in the US is a policeman. (X)
上句等於Peter's father living in the US is a policeman. 嗎?

“Peter 住在美國的爸爸是警察。”
代表Peter還有其他爸爸住在其他國家
logical flaw!

我估計two star orbiting應該是這樣改來的

本來的理解是two star that orbit 跟 two star orbiting理論上應該相等,可是OG顯然不認同,這應該怎麼解釋呢?




Peter’s father, who lives in the US, is a policeman. (○)
上句等於Peter’s father, living in the US, is a policeman.嗎?

“Peter的爸爸住在美國,是警察。”

我之前對限定非限定的理解還停留在有逗號跟沒逗號的觀點上

所以請大家能幫忙一下

謝謝 ;-$
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文章puthing » 2005-08-30 17:18

有人可以看一下上面的兩篇嗎?

不好意思 ;-$
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文章puthing » 2005-08-31 11:08

剛剛再翻了其他的文法書

有看到類似的用法

這應該是形容詞子句簡化為分詞構句的形式

(去which/that, 改主動動詞為V-ing & 改被動動詞為V-ed)

只是我還是不明白有that跟省略that的差異:sad

OG對(E)的解釋
expresses the relationship between the stars in a clear, concise way--two stars orbiting each other.

OG對(C)的解釋
the phrase two stars that orbit each other illogically suggests that there are two particular stars causing all the phenomena in question, rather than various sets of stars in various locations


個人覺得沒有很清楚
能請大家幫忙一下嗎?
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文章Pufa » 2005-08-31 11:44

這個問題我也沒想透,不過剛剛在CD有發現。

yuyingchao \$m[1]:
Sorry, 才刚刚回了文, 马上看到Cambridge文法Unit 96中有说明, -ing和-ed clause的用法
以下po出原文给大家参考:

B. We use –ing clauses to say what somebody (or something) is doing (or was doing) at a particular time.
强调正在进行动作

Do you know the woman talking to Tom? (The women is talking to Tom)
Police investigating the crime are looking for three men. (Police are investigating the crime)
Who were those people waiting outside? (they were waiting)
I was woken up by a bell ringing. (a bell was ringing)
C. When you are talking about things (and sometimes people), you can use an –ing clause to say what something does all the time, not just at a particular time. For example:
强调 all the time的一般性, 非一次性

The road joining the two villages is very narrow. (the road joins the two villages)
I live in a pleasant room overlooking the garden. (the room overlooks the garden)
Can you think of the name of a flower beginning with ‘T’? (the name begins with‘T’)

以上可知

OG 237 (C)的解释: 是说明(E)使用orbiting, 强调事件的一般性(泛指), 不能使用(C)that+S+V..指特定的两颗星星

Also, the phrase two stars that orbit each other illogically suggests that there are two particular stars causing all the phenomena in question, rather than various sets of stars in various loca­tions.

前一封中LES前辈的归纳, 应是正确的。OG 237的解释也是正确的
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