[討論]gwd 31-13

[iamger0730]

13: Dolphins lack vocal cords, nevertheless creating sounds: a complicated system of whistles, Squeaks, moans, trills, and clicks are produced by sphincter muscles inside the blowhole.

A: nevertheless creating sounds: a complicated system of whistles, squeaks, moans, trills, and clicks are produced by

B: nevertheless creating sounds: they produce a complicated system of whistles, squeaks, moans, trills, and clicks with

C: but they do create sounds, producing a complicated system of whistles, squeaks, moans, trills, and clicks being produced

D: but they do create sounds, a complicated system of whistles, squeaks, moans, trills, and clicks being produced

E: but nevertheless creating sounds: a complicated system of whistles, squeaks, moans, trills, and clicks produced by


目前沒有答案，不過cd上較多的為 B & E

E的話 but 和 nevertheless 只需一個就好了吧

所以我認為是B， 可是不太了解 最後那個with的作用

大大們覺得呢??

[freshmanduke]

好tricky的一題 我一開始選的是E
但覺得怪怪的 我首先的解題技巧是先看 選項的標點符號
我可以確定B是錯的 因為: colon的用法不能接獨立子句 但; semicolon可以
下面是從english writing skill裡面對於colon:的用法
Colons that introduce
• Use a colon to introduce a list of items, as long as the part before the colon is already a complete sentence.




Examples:




These people were cast in the play: Andrea, Horatio, Thom, Alley and Benito.




We packed these items for the trip: cameras, dress clothes, scuba equipment, and beach wear.




• Do not use a colon if the list of items complements a verb; in other words, if it completes the meaning begun by the verb. Look at the sample sentences from above rewritten in such a way that a colon is not necessary.




Examples:




The people cast in the play were Kristin, Horatio, Thom, Alley, and Benito.




For our trip we packed cameras, dress clothes, scuba equipment, and beach wear.




• Use a colon to introduce a formal quotation.




Example:




John F. Kennedy ended the speech with these notable words: "Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country."

[freshmanduke]

但是E的確如你所說but 跟nevertheless只需一個即可
我可以確定的是其中a system of ..... 是修飾前面的sound 所以B後面子句表達
應該是不必要 再者 B的語意也改變

anyway,open to discuss!

[SugarChunda]

我想選D, 如果那個being可以去掉的話...否則這題應該沒有答案吧 !
A) 最明顯的錯誤: a complicated sysytem是單數, 不該用are
B) 如Freshmanduke所說, 冒號後面不能是完整句子
C)producing看來是和creat平行的分詞, 後面有being贅字
D)我覺得a complicated system的同位語用法優於C選項的分詞, 不過後面一樣有being贅字
E)but 跟nevertheless應該有語意重複的問題, 而且已經出現連接詞but, 後面creat應該不是用分詞吧 !

請大家繼續討論 !! 加油 !!

PART 2 :
後來我又發現C & D 在but後面又重複了主詞, 應該不需要的 !!
我完全confused了 !

[freshmanduke]

我覺得D還有一個錯 就是少了by
感覺上沒有一個答案是正確的

[SugarChunda]

對喔.... C & D 都沒有 by....我沒注意到 !! 看來這是一道烏龍題嗎 ?

[iamger0730]

我覺得很有可能是 : 和 ; 題目搞錯了耶!!

不然每個選項都有問題嘛!!!!!!!!!!!!! (怒)

[stilalala]

[quote="iamger0730"]13: Dolphins lack vocal cords, nevertheless creating sounds: a complicated system of whistles, Squeaks, moans, trills, and clicks are produced by sphincter muscles inside the blowhole.

A: nevertheless creating sounds: a complicated system of whistles, squeaks, moans, trills, and clicks are produced by

B: nevertheless creating sounds: they produce a complicated system of whistles, squeaks, moans, trills, and clicks with

C: but they do create sounds, producing a complicated system of whistles, squeaks, moans, trills, and clicks being produced

D: but they do create sounds, a complicated system of whistles, squeaks, moans, trills, and clicks being produced

E: but nevertheless creating sounds: a complicated system of whistles, squeaks, moans, trills, and clicks produced by


整個題目似乎有問題

但我想知道的是

姑且不去討論哪個答案正確
依照句意來看
應該是a system.....produced by (被括約肌製造)
還是應該是 produce a sysrem ....with 對呢

麻煩大家了
謝謝

[modern]

老管的學生說C選項印錯
應改為
C: but they do create sounds, producing a complicated system of whistles, squeaks, moans, trills, and clicks with
所以才會是C對

我上google查過原文 確實前面是用 "but they do create sounds" 這句話做頭
整句原文前面還有 " unlike human beings, dolphins......."

[carolliu24]

大家好像已經有定論，題目是錯的，但我記得冒號後面應該還是可以加完整句子。
以下是我在網路上捉到的介紹（請特別注意第三點以下的說明），跟我認知符合，供大家參考。

冒號　Colon ：

冒號與分號Semicolon 不同，如之前一課所述，分號是用來分隔連繫用句 coordinate expressions，在句子中，冒號Colon 通常是介紹跟著的事物，特別用於職銜、參考資料、或時間資料上。



（I）Introduce a quotation:

Independent clause containing words that introduce a quotation: “Quoted Words.”

例子：

As a project coordinator, my boss always followed the same policy: “Do what is right today; justify it later.”

II）Introduce a list:

Independent clause: listed items.

例子：

You will need the following items: hiking boots, a tent, some dried food, warm clothing, a torch, and mosquito repellent.

III）Introduce a second clause that summarizes, restates, explains or enlarge upon the first clause in the sentence:

Independent clause: summarizing or restating words.

例子：

We knew that he meant what he said: his eyes looked as blue and hard as steel.


Capitalization：

1. 在冒號之後的完整引述句子 quotation 的第一個字用大寫（capital letter）。

2. 在冒號之後的表列事物、同位語（appositive）或任何其他非獨立句子的第一個字要用小寫（lowercase letter），但尊有名詞proper noun除外。

3. 在冒號之後的獨立句子或問句的第一個字則可以用大寫或小寫，而無論用那種寫法，均須與整篇文章一致。





（2） 用冒號去分隔資料：

I） Title & subtitle

例子：

The complete title of the book is the Flaneur: A Stroll through the Paradoxes of Paris.

II） Hours, minutes, & seconds

例子：

The plane took off at 8:45 p.m.

III） Memo form

例子：

To: Mr Philips Lee

From: Miss Teresa Fung

Re: Annual Meeting

IV） Salutation of formal or business letter

例子：

Dear Mrs Brown:

V） Chapters & verses of the bible

例子：

Psalms 23:1-3

John 3:16

VI） Bibliographic format

例子：

1. City of publication & publisher (book):

Burns, Marilyn. The Book of Think. Boston: Little, Brown and Company, 1976.
2. Year from pages (article):

Browns, Anne, “How to Solve a Problem.” U.S. News Report. 22 June 1987: 43.

[styleko]

老管的學生說C選項印錯
應改為
C: but they do create sounds, producing a complicated system of whistles, squeaks, moans, trills, and clicks with
所以才會是C對

我上google查過原文 確實前面是用 "but they do create sounds" 這句話做頭
整句原文前面還有 " unlike human beings, dolphins......."

請問一下..
如果改成這樣,C的producing會不會有修飾歧義的問題？是修飾but子句還是主要子句？

[DARY]

大家好像已經有定論，題目是錯的，但我記得冒號後面應該還是可以加完整句子。
以下是我在網路上捉到的介紹（請特別注意第三點以下的說明），跟我認知符合，供大家參考。

.

所以說，ｂ之所以錯是因為它在冒號後連了一個完整的子句嗎??

謝謝。

[yellowten]

老管的學生說C選項印錯
應改為
C: but they do create sounds, producing a complicated system of whistles, squeaks, moans, trills, and clicks with
所以才會是C對

我上google查過原文 確實前面是用 "but they do create sounds" 這句話做頭
整句原文前面還有 " unlike human beings, dolphins......."

Unlike humans, dolphins lack vocal cords, but they do use a complicated system of whistles, squeaks, moans, trills and clicks produced by sphincter muscles within the blow hole.

附上google出來的東西
大家參考參考吧~~~

[evelyn_yeh]

冒號後面應該還是可以加完整句子。
如果是如此,那B就沒錯,事實上,莫老師裁示為(B)

[A級垂耳兔]

莫老師並非100%正確....不過大約有98%的正確率..權威也有犯錯的時候..修辭拼到最後一定是靠自己找答案...很多GWD修辭原文已經被小弟一一找出..考完試有空在貼一貼...
這題我支持C....
答案A.B有個致命傷..就是冒號用法錯誤...
典型的冒號用法是:
.......A: B,C, and D.
這個莫老師筆記也有....B.C.D是用列舉的方式...而且是A的一部分...
如果要用 "句子 : 句子" 的形態..後面句子變成要是前面句子的擴張解釋....
答案A.B.冒號後面用句子...而且主詞不是sounds的一部分....硬不選...
要正確除非改成
".....sounds: whistles, squeaks, moans, trills, and clicks"這種樣子才能令人信服....

附上原文讓大家玩一下:
http://72.14.235.104/search?q=cache:-pm ... clnk&cd=10