[問題]gwd 8 --21

[ziying]

題目不是很能理解ㄟ~有沒有人可以說明一下呢!感激不盡^______^

[魚]

???????? 我有試著反白... 但是沒看到題目 :o

[ziying]

Although the earliest surviving Greek inscriptions written in an alphabet date from the eighth century B.C.,a strong case can be made that the Greeks actually adopted alphabetic writing at least two centuries earlier. Significantly, (the text of these earliest surviving Greek inscriptions sometimes runs from right to left and sometimes from left to right). Now, the Greeks learned alphabetic writing from the Phoenicians, and in the process (they would surely have adopted whatever convention the Phoenicians were then using with respect to the direction of writing.) Oridinally, Phonicians writing ran in either direction ,but by the eighth century B.C. it had been consistenely written from right to left for about two centuries.

bf題 正確選項為B
The first provides evidence in support of the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second presents an assumption on which that argument relies.

麻煩大家摟^^

[micht]

嗯...要看選項...我找找..

下次記得貼完整的唷 i12

Although the earliest surviving Greek inscriptions written in an alphabet date from the eighth century B.C., a strong case can be made that the Greeks actually adopted alphabetic writing at least two centuries earlier. Significantly, the text of these earliest surviving Greek inscriptions sometimes runs from right to left and sometimes from left to right. Now, the Greeks learned alphabetic writing from the Phoenicians, and in the process they would surely have adopted whatever convention the Phoenicians were then using with respect to the direction of writing. Originally, Phoenician writing ran in either direction, but by the eighth century B.C. it had been consistently written from right to left for about two centuries.

In the argument given, the two portions in boldface play which of the following roles?

A. The first is the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second reports a discovery that has been used to support a position that the argument opposes.

B. The first is the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second presents an assumption on which the argument relies.

C. The first presents evidence that is used in support of the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second presents an assumption on which the argument relies.

D. The first is an objection raised against a position that the argument opposes; the second is the position that the argument seeks to establish.

E. The first is an objection raised against a position that the argument opposes; the second is evidence that has been used to support that position.

[micht]

Although the earliest surviving Greek inscriptions written in an alphabet date from the eighth century B.C., a strong case can be made that the Greeks actually adopted alphabetic writing at least two centuries earlier

這一段 明顯再做 contrast..後者指出 其實alphabetic writing 比eighth century B.C還要早至少 兩個世紀... [1st boldface sentence 明顯表示他們持的argument] 因此 C,D,E不選

看A,B

第二段不是a report or discoverty 而是個assumption which the argument relies on.

抱歉 boldface不太容易解釋 .....

[yanguoeric]

嗯...要看選項...我找找..

下次記得貼完整的唷 i12

Although the earliest surviving Greek inscriptions written in an alphabet date from the eighth century B.C., a strong case can be made that the Greeks actually adopted alphabetic writing at least two centuries earlier. Significantly, the text of these earliest surviving Greek inscriptions sometimes runs from right to left and sometimes from left to right. Now, the Greeks learned alphabetic writing from the Phoenicians, and in the process they would surely have adopted whatever convention the Phoenicians were then using with respect to the direction of writing. Originally, Phoenician writing ran in either direction, but by the eighth century B.C. it had been consistently written from right to left for about two centuries.

In the argument given, the two portions in boldface play which of the following roles?

A. The first is the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second reports a discovery that has been used to support a position that the argument opposes.

B. The first is the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second presents an assumption on which the argument relies.

C. The first presents evidence that is used in support of the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second presents an assumption on which the argument relies.

D. The first is an objection raised against a position that the argument opposes; the second is the position that the argument seeks to establish.

E. The first is an objection raised against a position that the argument opposes; the second is evidence that has been used to support that position.

Although the earliest surviving Greek inscriptions written in an alphabet date from the eighth century B.C., a strong case can be made that the Greeks actually adopted alphabetic writing at least two centuries earlier. Significantly, the text of these earliest surviving Greek inscriptions sometimes runs from right to left and sometimes from left to right. Now, the Greeks learned alphabetic writing from the Phoenicians, and in the process they would surely have adopted whatever convention the Phoenicians were then using with respect to the direction of writing. Originally, Phoenician writing ran in either direction, but by the eighth century B.C. it had been consistently written from right to left for about two centuries.

In the argument given, the two portions in boldface play which of the following roles?

A. The first is the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second reports a discovery that has been used to support a position that the argument opposes.

B. The first is the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second presents an assumption on which the argument relies.

C. The first presents evidence that is used in support of the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second presents an assumption on which the argument relies.

D. The first is an objection raised against a position that the argument opposes; the second is the position that the argument seeks to establish.

E. The first is an objection raised against a position that the argument opposes; the second is evidence that has been used to support that position.
這題的粗體部分應該是這樣才對吧
請問一下如果是這樣 答案依然是B嗎
麻煩解答一下 :-$ 感恩喔
:D

[bugubugu]

Although the earliest surviving Greek inscriptions written in an alphabet date from the eighth century B.C., a strong case can be made that the Greeks actually adopted alphabetic writing at least two centuries earlier. Significantly, the text of these earliest surviving Greek inscriptions sometimes runs from right to left and sometimes from left to right. Now, the Greeks learned alphabetic writing from the Phoenicians, and in the process they would surely have adopted whatever convention the Phoenicians were then using with respect to the direction of writing. Originally, Phoenician writing ran in either direction, but by the eighth century B.C. it had been consistently written from right to left for about two centuries.

In the argument given, the two portions in boldface play which of the following roles?

A. The first provides evidence in support of the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second is that position.
B. The first provides evidence in support of the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second presents an assumption on which that argument relies.
C. The first is an assumption that the argument concludes is unjustified; the second presents part of the grounds for that conclusion.
D. The first is evidence that forms the basis for an objection to the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second is that position.
E. The first is evidence that forms the basis for an objection to the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second is a judgment that is introduced in order to call into question the relevance of that evidence.
這題的粗體部分應該是這樣才對吧
請問一下如果是這樣 答案依然是B嗎
麻煩解答一下 :-$ 感恩喔
:D

同學!
其實第8回這兩個劃線在不同處的bf它都有....
但選項完全不同.....
請你在原發文處改一下以免手邊沒對題的同學誤導....
我已幫你改在我這篇發文了....


它第一個bf呢....
明顯是支持他的結論:

Greeks actually adopted alphabetic writing at least two centuries earlier.

所以DE刪....
而且它是一個事實證據證明而非假設所以C錯....

接下來它要進一步說希臘人是從腓尼基人那學拼音字的....
這就是它講的一個細節....
再帶入第二個bf....
這bf並不是第一個bf要支持的東西...
第一個bf是要支持第二行的結論....
所以A錯....

[davidlee0222]

粗體題
只有三種東西
"前提""假設""結論"
前提+假設=結論
永遠只有這樣

前提跟結論都是明講的東西
假設是沒講的
另外會有"evidence實證"
會支持/反對 結論

在歐雞205題裡還發現第五元素
叫做"prediction預測"
是一個對未來的推測陳述
相當奸詐，一般不會出現

Although the earliest surviving Greek inscriptions written in an alphabet date from the eighth century B.C., a strong case can be made that the Greeks actually adopted alphabetic writing at least two centuries earlier. Significantly, the text of these earliest surviving Greek inscriptions sometimes runs from right to left and sometimes from left to right. Now, the Greeks learned alphabetic writing from the Phoenicians, and in the process they would surely have adopted whatever convention the Phoenicians were then using with respect to the direction of writing. Originally, Phoenician writing ran in either direction, but by the eighth century B.C. it had been consistently written from right to left for about two centuries.

要先知到全文大概在講啥

即使最早的希臘字是英文字母時代定位在史前8世紀 (事實)
但可結論"希臘學英文字母在更早200年前" (此為作者結論)
明顯滴，這些最早的字母有從右寫也有從左寫 (前提)
試想(new不是翻現在)，希臘人從P人學字母，
"學習中必採用P人寫字方向" (作者用來支持結論的"假設")
原本P人2個方向都寫，
但史前8世紀時P人都從右往左寫 (被作者拿來支持自己結論的"事實")

所以作者認為要是希臘人是學人的話
應該是會學P人從右開始寫

第一個是作者結論
第二個是作者用來推出結論的"假設"

看一下答案是哪個..
A. The first is the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second reports a discovery that has been used to support a position that the argument opposes.
前半對，但後半講一被用來反對結論的"實證"
後半是作者用來推結論的"假設"才對

B. The first is the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second presents an assumption on which the argument relies.
前半對，後半也對

C. The first presents evidence that is used in support of the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second presents an assumption on which the argument relies.
前半是個支持作者結論的"實證"，錯
後半對

D. The first is an objection raised against a position that the argument opposes; the second is the position that the argument seeks to establish.
前半是一作者結論反對的"反駁"
這樣看起來很像是說作者結論
但其實不是，並沒有誰有反對作者並做出反駁
但後面也是作者結論就錯了

E. The first is an objection raised against a position that the argument opposes; the second is evidence that has been used to support that position.
前半是反對作者結論的"反駁"，錯
後半是個用來支持結論的"實證"，錯

哈哈~果然是B
而且一模一樣

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另一題
Although the earliest surviving Greek inscriptions written in an alphabet date from the eighth century B.C., a strong case can be made that the Greeks actually adopted alphabetic writing at least two centuries earlier. Significantly, the text of these earliest surviving Greek inscriptions sometimes runs from right to left and sometimes from left to right. Now, the Greeks learned alphabetic writing from the Phoenicians, and in the process they would surely have adopted whatever convention the Phoenicians were then using with respect to the direction of writing. Originally, Phoenician writing ran in either direction, but by the eighth century B.C. it had been consistently written from right to left for about two centuries.

跟上面一樣
第一個粗體是"前提被作者用來尹出結論"
第二個粗體一樣是"作者用來支持自己結論的'假設'"

看一下對不對
A. The first provides evidence in support of the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second is that position.
前半對，後半不是結論，是假設

B. The first provides evidence in support of the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second presents an assumption on which that argument relies.
哈哈~一模一樣

C. The first is an assumption that the argument concludes is unjustified; the second presents part of the grounds for that conclusion.
第一個不是假設，而是前提
第二個是一個假設，而不是一個前提

D. The first is evidence that forms the basis for an objection to the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second is that position.
前半講反證錯
第二個也不是結論，是假設

E. The first is evidence that forms the basis for an objection to the position that the argument seeks to establish; the second is a judgment that is introduced in order to call into question the relevance of that evidence.
前半也是講反證，錯
後半變成一個"被用來懷疑實證相關性的'論斷'"
@$#%~不知所云

搞清楚"前提"+"假設"="結論"
然後有"實例"舉證的觀念
就可以輕鬆做對所有粗體題

[bobosunny]

還在煩惱這題怎麼做呢...看到大衛GG的文章才總算明瞭~這篇分析得太好了！
！一定要頂一下啊！！^0^~~