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帖子小茉莉 » 2005-11-06 21:05

Traveling the back roads of Hungary, in 1905 Béla Bartók and Zoltán Kodály began their pioneering work in ethnomusicology, and they were armed only with an Edison phonograph and insatiable curiosity.
(A) Traveling the back roads of Hungary, in 1905 Béla Bartók and Zoltán Kodály began their pioneering work in ethnomusicology, and they were armed only
(B) In 1905, Béla Bartók and Zoltán Kodály, traveling the back roads of Hungary, began their pioneering work in ethnomusicology, and they were only armed
(C) In 1905 Béla Bartók and Zoltán Kodály began their pioneering work in ethnomusicology, traveling the back roads of Hungary armed only
(D) Having traveled the back roads of Hungary, in 1905 Béla Bartók and Zoltán Kodály began their pioneering work in ethnomusicology; they were only armed
(E) Béla Bartók and Zoltán Kodály, in 1905 began their pioneering work in ethnomusicology, traveling the back roads of Hungary, arming themselves only

答案C
有隨可以告訴偶~~
C選項最後的armed only細怎麼演變而來滴~~
我喜歡E armed with 應該是在說這三個人 不是嗎???
"我要的是什麼?"
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帖子林小馬 » 2005-11-07 13:20

小茉莉 \$m[1]:Traveling the back roads of Hungary, in 1905 Béla Bartók and Zoltán Kodály began their pioneering work in ethnomusicology, and they were armed only with an Edison phonograph and insatiable curiosity.
(C) In 1905 Béla Bartók and Zoltán Kodály began their pioneering work in ethnomusicology, traveling the back roads of Hungary armed only
(E) Béla Bartók and Zoltán Kodály, in 1905 began their pioneering work in ethnomusicology, traveling the back roads of Hungary, arming themselves only

答案C
有隨可以告訴偶~~
C選項最後的armed only細怎麼演變而來滴~~
我喜歡E armed with 應該是在說這三個人 不是嗎???


E的前兩個逗號後讓", in 1905 began their pioneering work in ethnomusicology,"變成是插入句
結果主要子句就找不到動辭了

C的armed with是在講那三個人沒錯的!
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帖子小茉莉 » 2005-11-07 14:48

謝謝小馬
我真是大眼睛呢沒看到E已經文法不對
不過C呀最後armed這個字緊跟著traveling the back roads of Hungary 讓我渾身覺得不對勁
In 1905 Béla Bartók and Zoltán Kodály began their pioneering work in ethnomusicology, traveling the back roads of Hungary armed only with an Edison phonograph and insatiable curiosity.

armed前省略了什麼嗎?
"我要的是什麼?"
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帖子pimi » 2007-01-03 15:15

我也想知道armed前是省略了什麼耶??
請問有哪位大大可以幫個忙回答一下 ;-$
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帖子keane0727 » 2007-01-03 23:48

小茉莉 \$m[1]:
答案C
有隨可以告訴偶~~
C選項最後的armed only細怎麼演變而來滴~~
我喜歡E armed with 應該是在說這三個人 不是嗎???


armed with is the correct idiom.

the passive mood armed with indicates Béla Bartók and Zoltán Kodály were already provided with an Edision phonograph and insatiable curiosty.

The active mood arming with wrongly suggests that Béla Bartók and Zoltán Kodály were getting themselves an Edision phonograph and some curiosity.
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帖子dibert8 » 2007-04-05 05:47

句子意思是這樣嗎?
In 1905 Béla Bartók and Zoltán Kodály began their pioneering work in ethnomusicology;
Béla Bartók and Zoltán Kodály traveled the back roads of Hungary (who were) armed only with an Edison phonograph and insatiable curiosity.
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帖子spiritostar » 2007-05-16 11:03

(B)In 1905, Béla Bartók and Zoltán Kodály, traveling the back roads of Hungary, began their pioneering work in ethnomusicology, and they were only armed

(B)In 1905, Béla Bartók and Zoltán Kodály, traveling the back roads of Hungary, began their pioneering work in ethnomusicology, and they were armed only

我想請問(B)如果改成下面那樣,是不是就會正確了呢?
因為我覺得(B)也很好.....................
只是only的位置不太好 >_<
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帖子spiritostar » 2007-05-16 11:06

我同意dibert8大大對(E)句子的還原

再補充一點用法:
arm
1.用武器裝備[(+with)]
EX:The robber was armed with a rifle.
EX:Sheriff Barton armed his men with shotguns.
2.提供,配備[(+with)]
EX:We set out armed with warm clothes.

from yahoo dic.
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帖子dibert8 » 2007-05-19 00:56

spiritostar \$m[1]:(B)In 1905, Béla Bartók and Zoltán Kodály, traveling the back roads of Hungary, began their pioneering work in ethnomusicology, and they were only armed

(B)In 1905, Béla Bartók and Zoltán Kodály, traveling the back roads of Hungary, began their pioneering work in ethnomusicology, and they were armed only

我想請問(B)如果改成下面那樣,是不是就會正確了呢?
因為我覺得(B)也很好.....................
只是only的位置不太好 >_<


我的理解是這樣:
they were armed {with only ...} 他們的武裝只有...(其它準備之外強調僅有的工具)
they were only {armed with ...} 他們只有武裝了...(其他都沒有,e.g.沒有鞋子,衣服...,只有...)

(B) 插句的寫法 ETS 似乎會比較喜歡把關係代名詞寫出來,因為它明確指 B & Z, OG解釋中 ,Ving 常常用來修飾全句,因此夾在句子中間不知要修飾前面,還是後面,不如放句首當分詞構句,或放句尾修飾全句.
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帖子dibert8 » 2007-05-19 01:06

仍然有些疑問:
(A) 可以如何排除呢? (they 嗎? 我以為 they 應該自動跟 their 指同樣的對象.)
(C) 把 traveling... 換到次要結構有沒有改變句意?
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帖子dibert8 » 2007-07-12 09:54

大概是'86版OG的題目,大全的解釋如下:
Choices A and B are wordy and imprecise: the phrasing suggests that Bartok and Kodaly were already traveling the back roads of Hungary when they began their pioneering work, not that they traveled the back roads in order to conduct such work. Moreover, and suggests in both cases that they were armed with a phonograph in addition to being on the road, rather than while they were on the road, and only in B is misplaced before the verb armed. Choice C is correct. In choice D, Having traveled… suggests that the two had finished traveling before they began their work in ethnomusicology, and only is again misplaced. Choice E is wordy and awkwardly constructed. The question is a little easier than the average.

這樣看起來,這一題硬是考 Ving 在主要結構和附屬結構的區別,前者為分詞構句(時態與主要子句一致),後者為補充說明(有伴隨的意味).照解釋看, Ving 在附屬結構還可以充當主要子句的緣由(i.e.有藉由...的意思).
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帖子pimi » 2007-07-12 12:07

看了大全的解釋, 真的覺得這引申意義也太難的吧 @ @

還是想請問一下
大全中的解釋 the phrasing suggests that Bartok and Kodaly were already traveling the back roads of Hungary when they began their pioneering work, not that they traveled the back roads in order to conduct such work.

真正對的句意要表達的是Bartok and Kodaly were already traveling the back roads of Hungary when they began their pioneering work還是
they traveled the back roads in order to conduct such work.

大全的解釋, 我有點搞混, 搞不清楚哪個才是真正對的句意想要表達的 Q Q
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帖子dibert8 » 2007-07-12 14:48

(A) 的句意是這兩個人 (BB & ZK) 在 1905 年開始研究種族音樂的時候,已經在匈牙利旅行了
因為是分詞構句,旅行和開始研究發生在同一時間.這麼一來,看不出到匈牙利旅行對他們在那時開始研究種族音樂有什麼意義. (i.e. traveling 和 began 沒有關聯.)

(C) 的句意是這兩個人 (BB & ZK) 在 1905 年開始研究種族音樂,到了匈牙利旅行.
到匈牙利旅行是補充說明,只交代在他們研究種族音樂時,做過這事. (i.e. 到匈牙利旅行是一個經歷,以研究種族音樂,所以有 they traveled ... in order to conduct such work 的含意)

(A) (C) 的優劣在於句子表達的合理性. (C) 的句子,表達出正確的意思; 而 (A) 所表達的句意有點脫節.
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