[問題]GWD 30-Q29

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Q29:
Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was extremely important but more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than the balloon procedure by itself.

A. more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
B. more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is
C. that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than
D. that more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was any better for heart attack patients than
E. that more research was needed for determining that balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart attack patients than is

Answer: B

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CD上最新答案C
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[Zaitech]

這題我覺得是Dㄟ....

B、E不符合慣用....be needed to do something

A不夠簡潔....determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not.... 既然語氣中有『是否』，直接使用determine whether會更好....

C我覺得有重複的狀況....determin whether已經有『選擇』跟『是否』的語氣....is any better也有『選擇』跟『是否』的味道....

而且D的『preceded with』符合慣用....

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[aerobert]

這題我覺得是Dㄟ....

B、E不符合慣用....be needed to do something

A不夠簡潔....determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not.... 既然語氣中有『是否』，直接使用determine whether會更好....

C我覺得有重複的狀況....determin whether已經有『選擇』跟『是否』的語氣....is any better也有『選擇』跟『是否』的味道....

而且D的『preceded with』符合慣用....

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我也選D，還有一個疑問是is any better這裡的is用法正確嗎？整句話的時態都是過去式

[raikennon]

我覺得答案是C,”the balloon procedure by itself”如果要跟前面對稱,那by ultrasonic是比較好的選擇,with的用法怪怪的.大家參考一下

[A級垂耳兔]

我仍然支持B...這個句子本來就很爛...前面主動後面被動....
疑惑選項that我不玩..直接搞硬梆梆比較...
than後面剩名詞...不夠硬...刪A.C.E
我就要說...選C或D的人...你告訴我balloon procedure by itself是主詞還是受詞?

是這樣比?
balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than balloon procedure by itself (is any for heart attack patients).

還是這樣比?
balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than (balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any for) balloon procedure by itself.

答案E...is or is not一看就知道在耍白痴...刪...

[dibert8]

determine that ... was any better , 決定...較佳 (比較好是用決定的嗎?) => 選 determine whether ...
(B) 1. whether or not => redundency; 2. than (is), 動詞相同應省略
=> (C) : 簡潔

[willyyang]

同意 d大的解釋

答案應該是 (C)

(B)whether or not 不簡潔
(C)句型大概是這樣 Researchers agree that.....but that.....to determine whether........ (but前後兩個 that子句平行)

請各位NN指正

[kotokolin]

1. research + to V , 去掉research for 選項: B和E
(請參考紫色OG#50, 寫著research must be followed by to +V, not for Ving)
2. determine+that 和 determine whether
determine whether...是決定後面的選項"二選一"
determine that...是決定後面的事情
看A說 X was or was not better than Y=>這樣是好還是不好? 怪了, 要二選一就用ETS最愛的whether吧! (OG講了幾百次 二選一的選擇題要用whether)
看D說 X was any better than Y=> 既然都已經決定誰好, 幹麻還要more research was needed勒? 句意怪怪低, 擺明是想哪個比較好, 二選一, 還是改成whether吧!

3. 時態, 這是我個人感覺, 既然還沒決定哪個比較好, 用原形is any better, 用過去式很怪(was any better)

就選C吧

[dibert8]

原則上主詞比較是不能省略助動詞的,這題有受詞 patients 可能造成比較對象不清.這是 (C) 會被挑剔的地方.但是 OG 有一題容許這樣的省略,而且解釋成"必需省略".

OG11(VR)-Q39 [OG10-Q46]:
A study commissioned by the Department of Agricul¬ture showed that if calves exercise and associated with other calves, they will require less medication and gain weight quicker than do those raised in confinement.
(A) associated with other calves, they will require less medication and gain weight quicker than do
(B) associated with other calves, they require less medication and gain weight quicker than
(C) associate with other calves, they required less medication and will gain weight quicker than do
(D) associate with other calves, they have required less medication and will gain weight more quickly than do
(E) associate with other calves, they require less medication and gain weight more quickly than



Ans: E

OG11 解釋:
the verb do ungrammatically interrupts the comparison and should be eliminated.

我想原因可能是 those 複數指的是主詞 calves, 明確點出比較的對象,所以 do 在句子裡就礙眼了.

至於 GWD30-Q29 這一題也是主詞比較,主要子句受詞為介係詞的受詞,如果比較受詞,介係詞不能省略,因此也不會造成混淆.所以大膽省略 is, 而且"必需省略".
(B) 是錯誤答案長相, or not 是不會對的. (whether 已經有 or not 的含意,所以 redundancy 囉!)

[pockyqueen]

Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was extremely important but more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than the balloon procedure by itself.

A. more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was or was not any better for heart attack patients than
B. more research was needed for determining whether or not balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than is
C. that more research was needed to determine whether balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is any better for heart attack patients than
D. that more research was needed to determine that balloon angioplasty preceded with ultrasound was any better for heart attack patients than
E. that more research was needed for determining that balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound is or is not any better for heart attack patients than is

原文說reaserchers determine that 需要更多的研究來決定在balloon angioplasty之前先做ultrasound是否有比只做balloon procedure 好

1.research was needed to determine表research的目的是要決定後面兩者哪一個較佳 , 所以排除B E
另外B的whether or not可用whether一字取代

2.另外A E的 was or was not ; is or is not很呆=>ETS 一定會用whether來取代這種字

3.D選項preceded with不正確(or不慣用)=> precede by有在什麼之後的意思, a is preceded by b就是a在b之後
另外,D裡面沒有whether makes the sentence seem awkward; 如果直接要說需要研究來決定balloon angioplasty preceded by ultrasound 比balloon procedure itself好的話, 應該就直接是is better而不會用was any better了吧, was是搭配假設語氣whether(不知道這樣說是否有道理)

支持選項C whether A was any better than B (any 只是強調語氣用,其實也可以只讀Whether A was better than B)

[ggethan]

我支持(b)雖然這個答案真的醜到爆 whether or not不簡潔 又用for

但是從句意下手
Researchers agreed that the study of new treatments for heart attack patients was extremely important but more research...

先看五個答案的一開頭 兩個沒that 三個有that
如果沒that如(a)(b) 句意是研究人員同意:研究對於心藏病患的治療方法很重要,但是必須要有更多對於....的研究

但是若有that變成agree A but B
句意變成:研究人員同意:研究對於心藏病患的治療方法很重要,而不是同意:必須要有更多對於....的研究 句意很怪

而且就比較來看 is決對不能省

剛剛有大大提到og上那題有省的情況
...they require less medication and gain weight more quickly than
og那題不補的原因是因為第二個比較: gain weight more quickly than...
沒有受詞(雖然第一個比較有),但是第二個比較沒有受詞,所以可以很清楚知道兩個比較都是在比主詞.所以才不須補動詞

本題不是這個情況 所以我覺得(b)才合理

[CherrieLi]

我也贊同B是正確選項, 同上, 我也是看到有 but that, 覺得句意很怪, 覺得 researchers 只 argue 前半段而不 argue後半段,
雖然 whether or not 比較不簡潔(可單用whether), 但B的句意是最完整的

[AKZOPT]

我的作法,大家幫我看一下對嗎!?
1.agree that ...... but that ..要平衡-->CDE較好
2.D句意不對(determine that .....)
3.E is or is not -->reduntancy
4.C對

[dibert8]

(B) (C) 爭議.
but 前面沒有逗點(另起一句),暗示兩個平衡(同一句) => that... but that...
(C) 沒有 is 並不會造成混淆,如果要比較 patients 必需加 for (i.e. for... than for...)
所以 (B) (C) 相較之下, (C) 的句意相對精確,簡潔.